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19. The thing is, Supply constraints may not be negotiable

Reply to wtmusic (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:09 PM

Apr 2013

In a warming world, with uncertain weather, and entrenched interests, widespread food scarcity becomes inceasingly probable. We're over grazing. Nobody's rooting for famine. At some level it's a moral issue, but as a phenomenon, it's not constrained by morality.

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Nitrogen fertilizer is bad stuff — and not just because it could blow up your town [View all] xchrom Apr 2013 OP

The bad news can be overwhelming sometimes bloomington-lib Apr 2013 #1

It takes first-world blinders to see nitrogen fixation (Haber process) as anything but a miracle. wtmusic Apr 2013 #2

It is what made it possible to grow our population to 7+ billion NickB79 Apr 2013 #4

Actually sex is what made it possible. wtmusic Apr 2013 #5

So how have the other population controls worked out? NickB79 Apr 2013 #7

Wrong. wtmusic Apr 2013 #9

In 1978, China had 950 million people NickB79 Apr 2013 #10

The effect of China's program was one out of every two births was prevented. wtmusic Apr 2013 #11

Yes, it has been wildly successful NickB79 Apr 2013 #12

You would be willing to let members of your family starve to support this goal wtmusic Apr 2013 #13

An appeal to emotion fallacy NickB79 Apr 2013 #14

No, it isn't. wtmusic Apr 2013 #15

That's unfair pscot Apr 2013 #16

Let's ask Nick. wtmusic Apr 2013 #18

The thing is, Supply constraints may not be negotiable pscot Apr 2013 #19

so you're saying there is no environmental damage from nitrogen pollution? CreekDog Apr 2013 #8

nitrogen is not "green" wet.hen88 Apr 2013 #3

Meanwhile we send all our urine down the drain. eom roody Apr 2013 #6

I get it. ConcernedCanuk Apr 2013 #21

Unless you like starvation, it's wonderful stuff n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #17

national geographic article wet.hen88 Apr 2013 #20