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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
50. Under-insured is more accurate.
Thu May 16, 2013, 11:48 AM
May 2013

There is virtually no money in the insured amounts for the surrounding area and its residents. All the insurance does is protect the utility from the loss of their facility. There are other problems also, such as the drawn out time frame involved in gathering the money after the accident.

As shown in Table 21, retrospective premiums provide the vast majority (nearly 95 percent) of available coverage for any nuclear accident.

At present, the U.S. system provides the largest pool of coverage for a nuclear accident of any country in the world.83 However, this distinction may be more of an indication of the severity of coverage shortfalls in other countries than a tribute to U.S. rules and regulations. In terms of gross value, the available funds for U.S. compensation are well in excess of $12 billion; however, the funding drops to roughly $8.5 billion on a net-present-value basis. While the present value of available coverage is not usually discussed by the industry when outlining provisions for an accident scenario, it is a more appropriate metric given the seven-year lag between an accident and final retrospective-premium payments. In reality, both U.S. and global storm events have exceeded this level of damage, an indication that the limits likely would not be sufficient for nuclear accidents. While the pool of available coverage has grown over the past 50 years, that period has also seen sharp increases in the populations that could be affected by an accident, in the value of real estate and infrastructure within potentially affected areas, and in court recognition (via jury awards) of ancillary damage—such as environmental damages and lost wages for injured workers—from accidents.85

A simple evaluation of coverage per person, should an accident occur at a reactor located close to a population center, helps to illustrate this point. Table 21 uses as an example a reactor at Calvert Cliffs, located near Washington, DC, and Baltimore, MD. Available coverage, including pooled premiums from all other reactors (as stipu- lated under Price-Anderson), barely tops $1,100 per person in the Baltimore/Washington combined statistical area. This small amount would need to cover not only loss of property from an accident but also morbidity or mortality. The portion paid by Calvert Cliffs to cover the off-site accident risk from its own operations (Tier 1 coverage plus its share of Tier 2) would be a mere $60 per person affected. While the extent of the injuries would vary with the specifics of an accident, the weather at the time, and patterns of local settlement and construction, for a metropolitan area of this size it is clear that the coverage provided by Price- Anderson is not large.

Nuclear Power: Still Not Viable without Subsidies pg 69-70 Koplow

This is part of an excellent discussion on PAA, you really should read it. Available via Google.

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"The Breakthrough Institute"? kristopher May 2013 #1
Hardly the heritage foundation. FBaggins May 2013 #4
Where is your peaking power going to come from? Fairy dust? kristopher May 2013 #7
Peaking power must match peaking demand. FBaggins May 2013 #10
well, even you have to admit that with increasing gains in storage technology all of these numbers Tunkamerica May 2013 #32
Admit? FBaggins May 2013 #33
Me too. Tunkamerica May 2013 #34
What you said. It's another front for Big Energy. DCKit May 2013 #72
What about the cost and risk of storing nuclear waste for generations? JEB May 2013 #2
Negligible. FBaggins May 2013 #5
100,000 years of responsibility is not negligible. JEB May 2013 #9
Sure it is. FBaggins May 2013 #11
your casual dismissal of the problems with storing spent nuclear material would tell me everything niyad May 2013 #14
I haven't dismissed them FBaggins May 2013 #15
Really - which isotopes last 100,000 years FreakinDJ May 2013 #20
Ask the famous Luddite and astronaut JEB May 2013 #22
the higher the intensity of radioactivity the shorter the half-life. FreakinDJ May 2013 #24
Until it Leaks newsboy May 2013 #3
Methodology straight out the climate change deniers handbook Kelvin Mace May 2013 #6
That's the BI for you. kristopher May 2013 #8
Got any details? FBaggins May 2013 #12
Cherry picking data Kelvin Mace May 2013 #39
Hardly. FBaggins May 2013 #41
Seeing as solar is increasing Germany's carbon footprint dramatically wtmusic May 2013 #42
How is that? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #45
Because solar doesn't work most of the time. wtmusic May 2013 #46
That is still 13MW not produced Kelvin Mace May 2013 #59
High-carbon nuclear? wtmusic May 2013 #62
So, the contruction of the plant Kelvin Mace May 2013 #63
Solar is 2.5x higher than nuclear in lifetime GHG emissions. wtmusic May 2013 #64
You can mine 250-300 tons of steel without emissions? FBaggins May 2013 #68
breakthrough institute gets it wrong on climate economics--again niyad May 2013 #13
Not related to this analysis. FBaggins May 2013 #16
hmmm, not related. but the fact that they are wrong in one significant area tells me they niyad May 2013 #17
Your habit of misrepresenting my views is getting out of hand kristopher May 2013 #18
If I'm misrepresenting your views... you hide them pretty well. FBaggins May 2013 #25
What’s wrong with pricing carbon emissions? FreakinDJ May 2013 #21
I don't get that from Breakthrough's paper. wtmusic May 2013 #48
They are rightwing and antitax kristopher May 2013 #49
the people who lived near Chernobyl disagree about no economic cost when nuclear goes bad nt msongs May 2013 #19
The people of Fukushima JEB May 2013 #23
And who said that? FBaggins May 2013 #26
The ticking bomb that is the Hanford Kelvin Mace May 2013 #38
That isn't related to nuclear power. FBaggins May 2013 #40
Have they figured in the price of dismantlibg the reactor? Democracyinkind May 2013 #27
Of course. FBaggins May 2013 #28
There are only about 2 or 3 fully dismantled (commercial) reactors that I know of Democracyinkind May 2013 #36
It isn't just figured into their math... it's required FBaggins May 2013 #37
they left out the cost of liabily veganlush May 2013 #29
A frequently-repeated falsehood FBaggins May 2013 #31
wrong veganlush May 2013 #53
Nonsense. FBaggins May 2013 #54
give it up veganlush May 2013 #55
There was such a meltdown already. FBaggins May 2013 #57
the fact that you veganlush May 2013 #58
Only in the case... FBaggins May 2013 #60
Solar subsidies are 30 times as high as those for nuclear. wtmusic May 2013 #67
Why does a 60 year old industry need subsidies? kristopher May 2013 #69
Union of Concerned Scientists FogerRox May 2013 #70
"Legacy" subsidies? WTF is this idiot talking about? wtmusic May 2013 #71
Every operating nuke plant in the world is insured. wtmusic May 2013 #44
Under-insured is more accurate. kristopher May 2013 #50
It's just money. DetlefK May 2013 #30
Which is why we ought to ban fossil fuels and agricultural fuels. hunter May 2013 #61
Breakthrough Chairman's Bio - long version, is a joke. GeorgeGist May 2013 #35
Wow - did these idiots ever consider the cost feed-in tarrifs vs. actual generating costs? jpak May 2013 #43
Of course - all tarrrrifs included. nt wtmusic May 2013 #47
And what was the purpose of these tarrifs? jpak May 2013 #52
What WAS the purpose? FBaggins May 2013 #56
This is why the BI "study" is BS. kristopher May 2013 #51
758 veiws and 2 recs. Next. FogerRox May 2013 #65
Thanks for kick, and... wtmusic May 2013 #66
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