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sikofit3

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3. Yes
Fri May 17, 2013, 02:47 PM
May 2013

Natural gas IS methane when it is released from shale and then they take it and separate the propane, butane and other gases from it. And yes, it does let out all sorts of other stuff like ancient brine water with high TDS that make it very difficult to remove when treating the water. Also NORMs are released through the shale shavings when they drill through it and is also a factor in contamination. I also understand the silica sand that they use to push down the well bores to prop open the fractured shale that then allows the gas to be collected up the well,with the chemical laced water, causes lung cancer and other respiratory ailments to the workers and to anyone down wind when the sand plumes travel away from the drilling site. There is just all sorts of lovely things to talk about around fracking. I also read that the gas companies are using the same advertising and propaganda tactics that were used in past wars aimed to get the public to look at the conflict favorably to support it. They are not playing around because of the money involved and all the politicians are being bought off so I would really take any of this with a large grain of salt. Plus they see this as national security in the worlds playing ground in the energy markets particularly in rivaling Russia and China is also now getting into the game.

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Stable isotope signatures provide that information. Buzz Clik May 2013 #1
Yup sikofit3 May 2013 #4
The drilling could be causing a physical disruption of higher-level seams wtmusic May 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author sikofit3 May 2013 #11
"occasionally bubbles up through cracks in the earth" Warren Stupidity May 2013 #2
Yes sikofit3 May 2013 #3
well if you water is not on fire, and then they put in a frack pad next door, and then your faucets limpyhobbler May 2013 #5
Exactly Champion Jack May 2013 #6
Thank you wtmusic May 2013 #8
I might has more sad if I hadn't seen the kid on the ATV... hunter May 2013 #9
LOL I was surprised too to see a 5-year old with his own ATV limpyhobbler May 2013 #10
And that the dad previously confronted them with a shotgun. FBaggins May 2013 #12
maybe but I'm not sure that changes the environmental impact question. limpyhobbler May 2013 #13
It caused me to question his honesty. FBaggins May 2013 #14
Beats me. Industry makes billion?s of money on this so those are the last people I would believe. nt limpyhobbler May 2013 #15
People make lots of money on wind farms too FBaggins May 2013 #16
You suspect people's faucets were already on fire and they just didn't say anything before? limpyhobbler May 2013 #17
I don't just "suspect". I know it for a fact. FBaggins May 2013 #18
So why were methane concentrations 17 times higher in water near frack pads? limpyhobbler May 2013 #19
Hard to say FBaggins May 2013 #20
Why are they exempt from the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Safe Drinking Water Act, and CERCLA? limpyhobbler May 2013 #21
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