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OKIsItJustMe

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Tue May 21, 2013, 04:24 PM May 2013

Liquefied Air Could Power Cars and Store Energy from Sun and Wind [View all]

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/514936/liquefied-air-could-power-cars-and-store-energy-from-sun-and-wind/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Liquefied Air Could Power Cars and Store Energy from Sun and Wind[/font]

[font size=4]A 19th-century idea might lead to cleaner cars, larger-scale renewable energy.[/font]

By Kevin Bullis on May 20, 2013

[font size=3]Some engineers are dusting off an old idea for storing energy—using electricity to liquefy air by cooling it down to nearly 200 °C below zero. When power is needed, the liquefied air is allowed to warm up and expand to drive a steam turbine and generator.

The concept is being evaluated by a handful of companies that produce liquefied nitrogen as a way to store energy from intermittent renewable energy sources. Liquefied air might also be used to drive pistons in the engines of low-emission vehicles.

One company, Highview Power Storage of London, has raised $18 million and built a pilot plant that will use liquid air to store power from the grid. Highview has teamed up with Messer, the large industrial gas company, to help develop the technology. If all goes well, the U.K. government may fund the development of a larger plant that could establish its commercial viability. Meanwhile, the engineering consultancy Ricardo is developing two types of engines that could use liquid nitrogen, based on technology from a Highview Power spinoff called Dearman Engine.

Storage for the power grid is becoming more important as use of renewable energy increases. In the near term, natural-gas power plants and fast-responding storage technologies such as batteries can keep the grid stable (see “Wind Turbines, Battery Included, Can Keep Power Supplies Stable”). But if renewables are to reach a very large scale, or if we want to reduce the use of fossil-fuel backup power plants, technologies that can store hours’ or days’ worth of power will be needed.

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How much energy does it take to cool nitrogen down to -200 degrees and keep it there? leveymg May 2013 #1
Gosh! I bet they never thought of that! OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #2
Just try answering the question, you posted the OP. leveymg May 2013 #3
Snark attack, eh? OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #6
An entirely appropriate question, my friend. longship May 2013 #7
Did that strike as a serious inquiry? OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #10
More snark? Really!? longship May 2013 #12
We're used to people who have a somewhat better knowledge base... kristopher May 2013 #13
I guess you missed my point OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #14
Perhaps investing a few seconds to read the article will answer your questions OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #11
That doesn't answer the question: how much to chill down to -200 degrees? leveymg May 2013 #15
The real question is not how much energy it takes to chill it OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #17
Is systems analysis catching on at DU? ;-) leveymg May 2013 #19
Less than drilling for/refining/shipping fossil fuels. silverweb May 2013 #4
50-60% Efficient tinrobot May 2013 #5
Any method of storage is “less efficient than using the power directly” OKIsItJustMe May 2013 #8
And that almost always requires an application specific evaluation. nt kristopher May 2013 #9
I think there's something to this idea htuttle May 2013 #16
There's quite a variety of thermal storage technologies. kristopher May 2013 #18
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