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NNadir

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24. Um, um, um...making worthless toxic junk over and over and over because it can't be manufactured...
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jun 2013

...correctly the first time is a pretty bad environmental strategy.

The alleged "payback time" in what is called in the scientific literature as "life cycle analysis" has been often grotesquely misrepresented. Any infrastructure that fails before reaching the alleged "payback time" represents environmental destruction, although solar advocates are pretty glib when they demonstrate how shallow their environmentalism actually is.

If there are enforceable warranties...and if you make a claim that these warranties justify the existence of the industry you are merely stating what I have known for many years: That the solar industry has nothing at all to do with concern for the environment and everything to do with people hearing what they want to hear so as to avoid reality, a point that the general set of responses to this post makes very, very, very, very, very, very clear.

The unsustainable solar industry has a very questionable toxicological impact, and the fact that your solar installer may come back in his big carbon dioxide and PAH spewing diesel truck to replace the toxic junk, throwing the cadmium laced crap to be replaced in a landfill, does not wash away the concern of people called "environmentalists."

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Your comment: "Heckuva job anti-nukes" hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
He can't. He only has one mode: nasty. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #10
Behaves the same way @ Daily Kos FogerRox Jun 2013 #14
Venomous hyperbole aside, I'd rather live next to failing solar panels than a leaky nuke reactor. djean111 Jun 2013 #2
"Or shoot it at middle easterners", it just became clear to me why we invaded Iraq. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #6
Right now, we're radiating the Pacific ocean. BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #11
So is the sun. wtmusic Jun 2013 #39
You are going to equate sunlight and nuclear BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #40
I can't do that, can I. wtmusic Jun 2013 #44
If we cannot build a solar cell with no moving parts Downwinder Jun 2013 #3
You lost me at Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #4
Thats why I switched to Burning Coal. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #5
My, my intaglio Jun 2013 #7
Someone woke up on the dumb shit side of the bed this morning, eh? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #8
Do you mean the New York Times, or do you mean the people who can't understand the words in it? n/t NNadir Jun 2013 #19
Like the proverbial bad penny, you just keep turning up, don't you? kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #9
Sounds to me like you have a dog in this fight. Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #12
They DO last Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #13
NNadir would you buy Nuclear fission reactors from China & install it in your home state? FogerRox Jun 2013 #15
Excellent point wtmusic Jun 2013 #16
That would be wind. & who is the number 1 turbine manufacturer in the world? FogerRox Jun 2013 #17
To stay on topic wtmusic Jun 2013 #18
You are aware - actually I doubt it - that all of the magnets in every damn gas entrenching wind... NNadir Jun 2013 #35
The Chinese are world leaders in the construction of nuclear reactors today. NNadir Jun 2013 #22
LOL! jpak Jun 2013 #46
A side-effect of China's massive PV boom NickB79 Jun 2013 #20
That was my first thought as well. GreenPartyVoter Jun 2013 #31
Um, uh, they come with a warranty against this sort of defect. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #21
Um, um, um...making worthless toxic junk over and over and over because it can't be manufactured... NNadir Jun 2013 #24
Flame bait and overall RW nuttery in his seven sentences of commentary. He started another flame war Kolesar Jun 2013 #23
It's too bad that the "I hear what I want to hear" squad can't alert a DU Jury to articles in the... NNadir Jun 2013 #25
The NY Times is RW Nuttery? Renew Deal Jun 2013 #26
they have their share rurallib Jun 2013 #29
See for example their cheer leading the Iraq war. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #30
Key words: "his" and "commentary" ... eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #33
"RW nuttery?" caraher Jun 2013 #32
It is classic "RW nuttery" kristopher Jun 2013 #34
Nuclear is certainly his obsession; but that's not the issue. caraher Jun 2013 #36
"RW nuttery" is rooted in their methodology kristopher Jun 2013 #41
I'm not sure the choice is Solar vs. Nukes Renew Deal Jun 2013 #27
That article is worthless as a measure of the actual failure rate of solar panels. kristopher Jun 2013 #42
There's no such thing as a competition between solar and nuclear energy. NNadir Jun 2013 #47
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. Laelth Jun 2013 #28
NNadir was pre-emptively hostile muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #45
When a solar cell fails, how many pregnancies end up in birth defects? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #37
Depends on how much cadmium in the replaced panel enters the food chain. wtmusic Jun 2013 #38
Simple fix - mandatory recycling. kristopher Jun 2013 #43
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