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kristopher

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40. Not a problem

Reply to Scootaloo (Reply #38)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:28 PM

Jun 2013

- your statements are accurate for most extant ethanol programs. They break the 1:1 barrier only by counting the energy value of the feedstock made from leftovers, so they can not be considered much more than storage. We couldn't conceivably base an economy on biofuels of any type but the value of liquid fuels for some applications will eventually make all types an essential part of a successful renewable portfolio.

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Sorry but you're wrong kristopher Jun 2013 #32

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Are you for real? kristopher Jun 2013 #35

Yes, I am Scootaloo Jun 2013 #36

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The part where you carry the two, I suppose Scootaloo Jun 2013 #38

Not a problem kristopher Jun 2013 #40

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