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Socialistlemur

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18. Indeed the ocean absorbs heat

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:10 AM

Jun 2013

Anybody with a lick of common sense can understand the ocean does absorb heat. However heat absorption didn't kick in suddenly to stop the global warming trend on its tracks? Or did it? In a simple world warmer air will in turn warm the underlying ocean. Therefore the ocean has always been a heat sink, or a heat source when the air is cooler. Heat transfer to deeper water is altered by stratification, currents, evaporation rates, fresh water inflows, and of course temperature. But there's no ready answer to the mystery yet.

...Let me go over this point again....In other words, the ocean has always been a heat sink. Do you think the process was suspended by magic and restarted about 13 to 14 years ago?

I realize popular blogs and writers try to convince you everything is well, but the recent trend did alter the warming projections in AR5 versus AR4, and I happen to think of this as an evolving situation. I'd rather keep the politics out of the discussion, but it's hard to discuss science with people who have a nearly religious hysteria controlling what they wish to discuss. The insults your buddies use against me don't bother too much, but they sure take away from the discussion.

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