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OKIsItJustMe

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57. Non sequitur - I thought the topic was the safety of nuclear fission plants
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013

However, could the Ukranians use renewable energy sources? I mean, it snows there. Right?

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.solener.2013.02.014

[font face=Serif][font size=5]The effects of snowfall on solar photovoltaic performance[/font]
[font size=4]Abstract[/font]
[font size=3]Solar photovoltaic (PV) systems are frequently installed in climates with significant snowfall. To better understand the effects of snowfall on the performance of PV systems, a multi-angle, multi-technology PV system was commissioned and monitored over two winters. A novel methodology was introduced and validated with this system, which allows for the determination of snowfall losses from time-series performance data with correlated meteorological observations down to a 5-min resolution. In addition, a new method for determining the probability distribution of snow deposition on a module from image data was developed. It was found that the losses due to snowfall are dependent on the angle and technology being considered and the effects of increased albedo in the surroundings of a PV system can increase expected yields, particularly in the case of high tilt angle systems. Existing methods for predicting losses due to snowfall were investigated, and were found to provide overly conservative estimates of snow losses. Overall the results show that the proper assessment of snow related losses can help improve system performance and maintenance. It is concluded that proper characterization of the snowfall effect on PV system performance can influence better systems optimization for climates experiencing snowfall.



[font size=4]7. Conclusions[/font]

This study introduced a methodology that can be used to derive snowfall losses and time to clear of snow from a time series of module performance data, a metric commonly collected at PV installation sites. In addition, a methodology to analyse snow shedding patterns from image data was introduced, and showed the variability of snow distribution patterns depending on module type and orientation. Overall it was seen that snowfall will tend to settle in a vertical gradient on the surface of the module.

It was found that the losses due to snowfall are dependent on the angle and technology being considered. Over the 2 years studied, which had low levels of snowfall when compared to historic data, the losses ranged from 3.5–1% of expected yearly yield for sites in south-eastern Ontario. It was also found that the effect of increased spectrally responsive albedo can cause an increase of approximately 1% over projected yields on modules with higher inclinations from the horizontal. An attempt was made to correlate the time required to shed snow to module temperature and relative humidity, and though some weak trends are apparent: that a lower temperature and higher relative humidity will tend to increase the time to shed, they were not significant. Overall it was found that the proper assessment of snow related losses can help improve system performance and maintenance. In addition, proper characterization of the snowfall effect can influence better systems optimization for climates experiencing snowfall. Future work is also needed to investigate system design to better utilize albedo augmentation techniques.

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people of chernobyl are anxiously awaiting the arrival of "cheap, low cost" nuclear nt msongs Jun 2013 #1
They didn't have to wait at all. wtmusic Jun 2013 #2
Gee, nuclear power for the hospitals Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #4
Oh please...you and Helen Caldicott wtmusic Jun 2013 #6
Oh please...you and Glenn Beck Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #7
Check this out - this dude grew up across the street from the reactor wtmusic Jun 2013 #8
He looks deformed, BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #26
Kiev, Ukraine, 20 April 2011 - Secretary-General's remarks at "25 Years after Chernobyl Catastrophe: OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #23
Thyroid cancer from Chernobyl has conclusively resulted in nine (9) deaths. wtmusic Jul 2013 #24
Let’s not pretend it was business as usual after the meltdown OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #25
Backpedal! Backpedal! wtmusic Jul 2013 #29
I’m not backpedalling in the least OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #33
Still waiting. nt wtmusic Jul 2013 #38
What are you waiting for? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #44
Nuclear is cleaner than renewables wtmusic Jul 2013 #46
And, if battery backup, or hydrogen backup were used? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #51
Honestly I don't know. wtmusic Jul 2013 #54
Do you own stock? BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #27
When antinukes don't have an argument, they resort to mindless hacks. wtmusic Jul 2013 #31
One last question. BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #37
World Nuclear Association: Health Impacts — Chernobyl Accident Appendix 2 OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #28
Hilarious...you might want to "read" before you "cut and paste". wtmusic Jul 2013 #36
And there it is! Your tell! The smiley! OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #48
How many people have died from wind turbines falling over? wtmusic Jul 2013 #50
You like to pretend that nuclear power is absolutely safe OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #52
Really? Show me where I make that claim. nt wtmusic Jul 2013 #53
It’s all about your attitude OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #55
If they had depended on solar panels covered with snow to keep them warm wtmusic Jul 2013 #56
Non sequitur - I thought the topic was the safety of nuclear fission plants OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #57
And we should consider the design of Chernobyl as representative? wtmusic Jul 2013 #58
I suppose we should consider Chernobyl irrelevant… OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #59
For all practical purposes, it is. wtmusic Jul 2013 #60
So, let me see if I follow your argument OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #61
You and your straw men: please talk amongst yourselves. I'm bored. wtmusic Jul 2013 #63
I don’t need any straw men to keep me company OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #64
A couple of extra pair of underwear... kristopher Jul 2013 #65
People in Fukushima Prefecture, Japan Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #3
Sorry - but you are being a sucker for anti-nukes that know Photoshop... PamW Jun 2013 #10
Chernobyl is the Hindenburg of the nuclear power industry PamW Jun 2013 #9
Whats illogical in all this madokie Jun 2013 #11
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #13
Nuclear the cheapest option? Only if you lie. kristopher Jun 2013 #5
Just wondering... Did you actually believe any of that? FBaggins Jun 2013 #12
Sorry but that doesn't work. kristopher Jun 2013 #14
Nice attempt at deflection FBaggins Jun 2013 #15
It is manifestly obvious that wind is cheaper than nuclear. DLnyc Jun 2013 #16
You need to do some homework. wtmusic Jun 2013 #17
Well thank you for this information reinforcing my point. DLnyc Jun 2013 #18
Please. $50 billion in "nuclear subsidies" is either just bullshit wtmusic Jul 2013 #19
Back of napkin, early morning half assed asleep figures madokie Jul 2013 #20
A = pi r^2. You are basically correct. DLnyc Jul 2013 #21
And if more than half of the circle isn't over land? FBaggins Jul 2013 #22
Does that include the cost of transporting/storing spent rods? Auggie Jul 2013 #30
Soil contamination?! wtmusic Jul 2013 #32
Potential ... Auggie Jul 2013 #34
Can you guarantee the human race won't be extinct in 500 years? wtmusic Jul 2013 #35
Nuclear never cheaper once total life cycle including waste & decommission included on point Jul 2013 #39
The biggest uncertainty facing nuclear power is how many idiots Greenpeace can marshal wtmusic Jul 2013 #40
Really? Mopar151 Jul 2013 #41
All the disasters you name were from weapons production, wtmusic Jul 2013 #42
Show me the NPV for 100,000 yrs of waste protection and we can talk on point Jul 2013 #43
Ah, Greenpeace Idiotic Talking Point #1. wtmusic Jul 2013 #45
Nobody is falling for your pro nuclear propaganda. Plz move to Fukushima ok? on point Jul 2013 #47
Statistically it would be safer than living in parts of West Virginia wtmusic Jul 2013 #49
The Mass Yankee core is buried at Hanford Mopar151 Jul 2013 #62
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