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kristopher

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Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:21 AM Jul 2013

Hansen misguided about value of nuclear [View all]

Comment on “Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power”
dx.doi.org/10.1021/es401667h | Environ. Sci. Technol. 2013, 47, 6715−6717
© 2013 American Chemical Society

Pushker Kharecha and James Hansen have made a contribution in their article about the benefits of nuclear power.1 However, issues of technology systems integration deserve added attention as well as addressing a few errors. Though there is some logic underpinning the notion that nuclear power can mitigate greenhouse gas emissions as a “stabilization wedge”,2 we argue that (a) its near-term potential is significantly limited compared to energy efficiency and renewable energy; (b) it displaces emissions and saves lives only at high cost and at the enhanced risk of nuclear weapons proliferation; (c) it is unsuitable for expanding access to modern energy services in developing countries; and (d) the authors’ estimates of cancer risks from exposure to radiation are flawed.

First, nuclear power reactors are less effective at displacing greenhouse gas emissions than energy efficiency initiatives and renewable energy technologies. According to one early study, each dollar invested in energy efficiency displaces nearly 7 times as much carbon dioxide as a dollar invested in nuclear power.3 McKinsey & Company’s cost abatement curves have repeatedly affirmed this point, concluding that nuclear power is a significantly more expensive mitigation option than investments in efficiency, waste recycling, geothermal, and small hydro- electric dams, among others.4

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In sum, Kharecha and Hansen’s article is incomplete and misleading. Energy efficiency and renewable energy should be front and center in any campaign to address environmental pollution and climate change - they should not appear, as Kharecha and Hansen treat them, as an afterthought. If wind energy is truly 96 times as effective as nuclear power at mitigating greenhouse gas emissions, then it may have saved - and can save - 96 times as many lives. Renewables and efficiency also get you faster climate protection as well as more carbon displaced per dollar expended.
The urgency of world hunger does not require us to fight it with caviar, no matter how nourishing fish eggs might be. In the end, buying the most expensive remedies first will only diminish what we can - and must - spend on more promising approaches.25 Given the opportunity costs involved, nuclear power could reduce and retard the climate protection the authors so rightly seek.

http://www.nirs.org/climate/sovacool-et-al-hansen.pdf
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Nuclear enthusiasts always ignore the "fallout" Demeter Jul 2013 #1
Do energy efficiency initiatives really displace GHG emissions? GliderGuider Jul 2013 #2
Do we have efficiency initiatives on a global level? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #3
Efficiency initiatives are both local and global GliderGuider Jul 2013 #4
That has nothing to do with the OP kristopher Jul 2013 #5
I'm not talking about a minor rebound effect GliderGuider Jul 2013 #8
What evidence do you have that a lack of energy has curtailed development? kristopher Jul 2013 #12
??? I never said a lack of energy has curtailed development. GliderGuider Jul 2013 #14
that's what I thought kristopher Jul 2013 #15
Mmmm. Gee thanx. GliderGuider Jul 2013 #16
Silly GliderGuider ..... oldhippie Jul 2013 #17
Not the first time I've been criticized for colouring outside the lines. GliderGuider Jul 2013 #18
Whatever - I thought i was suggesting the most basic rule of authorship... kristopher Jul 2013 #19
Unsolicited personal advice from a stranger on the internet GliderGuider Jul 2013 #22
Hardly a stranger. kristopher Jul 2013 #24
What's your name? GliderGuider Jul 2013 #27
Grow up. kristopher Jul 2013 #28
So I don't get to know your name? GliderGuider Jul 2013 #29
Nor his qualifications ...... oldhippie Jul 2013 #35
OK, so is it your contention that Botswana would be better off if US emissions were going up!? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #6
My contention is that the USA has outsourced its manufacuring GliderGuider Jul 2013 #7
I don’t believe that is a sufficient explanation OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #9
It's also worth considering why emissions went down in that graph caraher Jul 2013 #11
What does the EIA have to say? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2013 #23
Yes, that is the problem with most accounting schemes for greenhouse gases caraher Jul 2013 #10
That really isn't relevant to the OP. kristopher Jul 2013 #13
Earlier post where we discuss "energy efficiency." joshcryer Jul 2013 #21
They don't dispute the 64 gt saved by nuclear power. joshcryer Jul 2013 #20
They are dealing specifically with what he signed his name to in that paper. kristopher Jul 2013 #25
No, they are deflecting. joshcryer Jul 2013 #30
Then Hansen doesn't agree with Hansen. kristopher Jul 2013 #31
They did not say his methods were wrong. joshcryer Jul 2013 #32
I think I'm corresponding with... kristopher Jul 2013 #33
Oops, I forgot, you're the guy who bought Nordell's nonsense. joshcryer Jul 2013 #34
Until a WovenGems Jul 2013 #26
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