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In reply to the discussion: Intermittency Of Renewables?… Not So Much [View all]kristopher
(29,798 posts)8. That's true. It has been modeled in detail.
Cost-minimized combinations of wind power, solar power and electrochemical storage, powering the grid up to 99.9% of the time
Open Access Article
Abstract
We model many combinations of renewable electricity sources (inland wind, offshore wind, and photovoltaics) with electrochemical storage (batteries and fuel cells), incorporated into a large grid system (72 GW).
The purpose is twofold:
1) although a single renewable generator at one site produces intermittent power, we seek combinations of diverse renewables at diverse sites, with storage, that are not intermittent and satisfy need a given fraction of hours. And
2) we seek minimal cost, calculating true cost of electricity without subsidies and with inclusion of external costs.
Our model evaluated over 28 billion combinations of renewables and storage, each tested over 35,040 h (four years) of load and weather data.
We find that the least cost solutions yield seemingly-excessive generation capacity at times, almost three times the electricity needed to meet electrical load. This is because diverse renewable generation and the excess capacity together meet electric load with less storage, lowering total system cost.
At 2030 technology costs and with excess electricity displacing natural gas, we find that the electric system can be powered 90%99.9% of hours entirely on renewable electricity, at costs comparable to today'sbut only if we optimize the mix of generation and storage technologies.
Full article available http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775312014759
Open Access Article
Abstract
We model many combinations of renewable electricity sources (inland wind, offshore wind, and photovoltaics) with electrochemical storage (batteries and fuel cells), incorporated into a large grid system (72 GW).
The purpose is twofold:
1) although a single renewable generator at one site produces intermittent power, we seek combinations of diverse renewables at diverse sites, with storage, that are not intermittent and satisfy need a given fraction of hours. And
2) we seek minimal cost, calculating true cost of electricity without subsidies and with inclusion of external costs.
Our model evaluated over 28 billion combinations of renewables and storage, each tested over 35,040 h (four years) of load and weather data.
We find that the least cost solutions yield seemingly-excessive generation capacity at times, almost three times the electricity needed to meet electrical load. This is because diverse renewable generation and the excess capacity together meet electric load with less storage, lowering total system cost.
At 2030 technology costs and with excess electricity displacing natural gas, we find that the electric system can be powered 90%99.9% of hours entirely on renewable electricity, at costs comparable to today'sbut only if we optimize the mix of generation and storage technologies.
Full article available http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775312014759
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Why are you arguing about a theoretical problem that could only possibly occur
BlueStreak
Jul 2013
#16
"no compelling reason ever to build (or extend) any nuclear or coal plant -- ever"
kristopher
Jul 2013
#44
The economics of storage systems get better as we shift to intermittent sources
BlueStreak
Jul 2013
#65
That 300% is a nonsense number, for a case that will never exist in the real world
BlueStreak
Jul 2013
#29