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PamW

(1,825 posts)
24. UNWARRENTED Assumption
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jul 2013

NV Whino,

Your whole "argument" above is based on a scientifically unwarranted assumption; which is that an earthquake HAS TO be fatal to a nuclear power plant.

Just because your house can't withstand an earthquake doesn't mean that all man-made structures will fail in an earthquake. Imagine that you are in San Francisco when the "Big One" hits, and you are in a local branch of Wells Fargo. The branch manager herds all the staff and patrons into the vault. Do you think you will be safe? Of course you will be safe. Bank vaults are designed to withstand forces much greater than anything an earthquake can muster.

OK - you are concerned about larger structures. What about the Bay Bridge which is currently being retrofitted for seismic reasons, with the grand opening of the new span later this year. ( Hopefully. ) Let's forget about nuclear power plants for the moment, because that always engenders an not useful knee-jerk response.

Let's deal with the Bay Bridge. If a big earthquake struck while the bridge was packed at rush hour, and it collapsed; then there would be much death and carnage. So what do we do? Do we say, "All you people in Oakland and Berkeley that work in San Francisco, need to drive south to San Jose, and then up the peninsula".

NO - we don't do that. We know the faults that can threaten the bridge; at least the big ones. ( The little ones can't generate really big quakes anyway; not like the big ones ) We then calculate just how much force a big quake can exert on the bridge. Then we artificially increase that amount to provide a safety factor.

Then we build a bridge that can withstand that amount of force. Engineers do such things all the time. Your airliner could encounter sudden jarring turbulence. You may hear about those occasionally on the news; the passengers get really shaken up. But do the wings fall off the plane? They do NOT. Why is that?

Because the airliner is designed to take the forces of that sudden jarring turbulence; and MORE.

We design bridges to deal with the forces that could be applied to them. We design airliners to deal with the forces that could be applied to them.

Guess what else. We also design nuclear power plants to withstand the forces that could be thrown at them.

An earthquake doesn't automatically equate to a broken, leaking power plant.

PamW

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Actually they closed it because they were caught red handed lying to regulators kristopher Jul 2013 #1
While Eco-Terrorist may see this as a Victory FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #7
They closed it because they lied to regulators about major safety issues at a nuclear plant. kristopher Jul 2013 #8
You as many Eco-Terrorist have a proven record of "Loose with the Facts" FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #12
CITE PLEASE??? PamW Jul 2013 #16
I'm sorry, I was wrong; It was a letter not an email kristopher Jul 2013 #19
You are aware the damned thing sits in an earthquake fault NV Whino Jul 2013 #2
Nonsense. wtmusic Jul 2013 #4
A big enough quake Control-Z Jul 2013 #9
You're much more likely to die from the quake itself wtmusic Jul 2013 #15
UNWARRENTED Assumption PamW Jul 2013 #24
How close do YOU live Control-Z Jul 2013 #3
About 80 miles north. nt wtmusic Jul 2013 #6
If I lived 80 miles in any direction Control-Z Jul 2013 #10
As always, Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #11
No bravery required. wtmusic Jul 2013 #14
What a crock of crap. Control-Z Jul 2013 #18
Sentiment in San Clemente is about evenly split wtmusic Jul 2013 #21
The San Gorgonio Pass Wind Farm pictured above miyazaki Jul 2013 #25
Every wind farm's bastard brother you're not supposed to know about. wtmusic Jul 2013 #27
I wouldn't care if it was in my backyard. wtmusic Jul 2013 #13
Right. Control-Z Jul 2013 #17
I don't need to tell them anything. wtmusic Jul 2013 #20
Mitsubishi Warranty is an oxymoron n/t Mopar151 Jul 2013 #5
Trading this for fracked gas... hunter Jul 2013 #22
thank you wtmusic Jul 2013 #23
The Carbon Value of San Onofre to the California Grid is Minimal. kristopher Jul 2013 #28
It wouldn't be the same without them Politicalboi Jul 2013 #26
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