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NickB79

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4. Really, bananas?

Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:42 AM

Aug 2013

That's the same type of argument used by deniers to claim that global warming stopped in 1998, by cherry-picking two data points and drawing a straight line from A to B. We all know it's far more complex than that.

You know this. Don't stoop to that level.

Your post does nothing to address the apparent reversal in Germany's CO2 emissions. Just because they have made major advances in comparison to the US does not negate the fact that their absolute carbon emissions are now RISING when they were falling for many, many years. And absolute carbon emissions are what matter in the end.

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Merkel�s Green Shift (sic) Backfires as German Pollution Jumps [View all] FBaggins Jul 2013 OP

. wtmusic Jul 2013 #1

German emissions down 25.5% since 1990, US emisions up 5% bananas Jul 2013 #2

Thank you. mbperrin Jul 2013 #3

Really, bananas? NickB79 Aug 2013 #4

Are you SERIOUSLY making the claim kristopher Aug 2013 #5

Are you seriously going to dismiss two years of back-to-back carbon increases? NickB79 Aug 2013 #6

You bet your sweet ass I am. kristopher Aug 2013 #7

Then you've gone round the bend. FBaggins Aug 2013 #8

You haven't been right about a single thing since this started. kristopher Aug 2013 #10

Oh my, oh my NickB79 Aug 2013 #15

So let me get this straight kristopher Aug 2013 #16

It remains to be seen? FBaggins Aug 2013 #22

You mean that your strawman has been wrong all along? FBaggins Aug 2013 #24

The German Greens are seriously making that claim because it is true Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #13

"this increases the need for stabilizing power" NickB79 Aug 2013 #14

Baseload, reactive, etc Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #21

It is always worth looking at what you leave out kristopher Aug 2013 #17

Except, Kristopher, that Germany passed a law preventing these shutdowns when necessary Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #25

Close... but not quite FBaggins Aug 2013 #27

It's amazing how short-sighted you can be FBaggins Aug 2013 #26

Since 1990? FBaggins Aug 2013 #9

They decided to eliminate nuclear power in 2000 kristopher Aug 2013 #11

And changed it after that FBaggins Aug 2013 #12

I haven't ignored it kristopher Aug 2013 #18

What you keep forgetting... FBaggins Aug 2013 #19

Not at all kristopher Aug 2013 #20

Lol! FBaggins Aug 2013 #23