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FBaggins

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8. Then you've gone round the bend.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:30 AM
Aug 2013

You need to take a look at the predictions for their solar/wind growth over the next decade and compare it to the amount they've already built... then compare the generation from everything they have so far... then compare that to the amount of generation from the nuclear plants that they have yet to shut down.

There's no way that they reduce their carbon emissions from 2011 for many years to come.

Yes, I am perfectly willing to see two years where they have a minor increase in carbon

It won't be for just two years... and it's far from minor.

On edit - just to help out with that required research... Germany produced 44.3 TWh from wind/solar in the first half of this year (down several percent from the same period last year... and a two-year decline for wind despite all the new capacity). Nuclear power (after the shutdowns) produced 46 TWh.

So over the next eight years or so... they need to duplicate all of their wind/solar success to date (even ignoring any demand growth) just to break even.

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. wtmusic Jul 2013 #1
German emissions down 25.5% since 1990, US emisions up 5% bananas Jul 2013 #2
Thank you. mbperrin Jul 2013 #3
Really, bananas? NickB79 Aug 2013 #4
Are you SERIOUSLY making the claim kristopher Aug 2013 #5
Are you seriously going to dismiss two years of back-to-back carbon increases? NickB79 Aug 2013 #6
You bet your sweet ass I am. kristopher Aug 2013 #7
Then you've gone round the bend. FBaggins Aug 2013 #8
You haven't been right about a single thing since this started. kristopher Aug 2013 #10
Oh my, oh my NickB79 Aug 2013 #15
So let me get this straight kristopher Aug 2013 #16
It remains to be seen? FBaggins Aug 2013 #22
You mean that your strawman has been wrong all along? FBaggins Aug 2013 #24
The German Greens are seriously making that claim because it is true Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #13
"this increases the need for stabilizing power" NickB79 Aug 2013 #14
Baseload, reactive, etc Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #21
It is always worth looking at what you leave out kristopher Aug 2013 #17
Except, Kristopher, that Germany passed a law preventing these shutdowns when necessary Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #25
Close... but not quite FBaggins Aug 2013 #27
It's amazing how short-sighted you can be FBaggins Aug 2013 #26
Since 1990? FBaggins Aug 2013 #9
They decided to eliminate nuclear power in 2000 kristopher Aug 2013 #11
And changed it after that FBaggins Aug 2013 #12
I haven't ignored it kristopher Aug 2013 #18
What you keep forgetting... FBaggins Aug 2013 #19
Not at all kristopher Aug 2013 #20
Lol! FBaggins Aug 2013 #23
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