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wtmusic

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46. No, they didn't win a 1985 Nobel Prize for their work.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

The organization International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War won the award. What is IPPNW's position on nuclear power? They don't have one:

IPPNW affiliates are national medical organizations with a common commitment to the abolition of nuclear weapons and the prevention of war. Affiliates range in size from a handful of dedicated physicians and medical students to tens of thousands of activists and their supporters. As independent organizations within a global federation, IPPNW affiliates engage in a wide variety of activities related to war, health, social justice, and the environment.

In much the same way Steven Starr "borrows" the credibility of a physician by touting his membership in Physicians for Social Responsibility, that group "borrows" the prestigious Nobel seal for their website - awarded to a different group for reasons that had nothing to do with nuclear power. This is a common tactic of antinuclear activists: without legitimate credentials and research of their own, they glom onto the legit credentials of other groups. In the process, they confuse well-meaning individuals like yourself not only about their work, but about real prospects for nuclear energy to fight global warming.

The Nobel Peace Prize for 1985

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1985 to the organisation International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War.

It is the committee's opinion that this organisation has performed a considerable service to mankind by spreading authoritative information and by creating an awareness of the catastrophic consequences of atomic warfare. The committee believes that this in turn contributes to an increase in the pressure of public opposition to the proliferation of atomic weapons and to a redefining of priorities, with greater attention being paid to health and other humanitarian issues. Such an awakening of public opinion, as is now apparent both in the East and in the West, in the North and in the South, can give the present arms limitation negotiations new perspectives and a new seriousness.

In this connection the committee attaches particular importance to the fact that the organisation was formed as a result of a joint initiative by Soviet and American physicians and that it now draws support from physicians in over forty countries all over the world.

It is the committee's intention to invite the organisation's two founders, who now share the title of president – Professor Bernard Lown from the USA and Professor Yevgeny Chazov from the Soviet Union – to receive the Peace Prize on behalf of their organisation.

Oslo, October 5, 1985


http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1985/press.html

Every reputable scientist, every real expert - people with advanced degrees in climatology like James Hansen - has said that nuclear power has to be a significant part of the solution to climate change. This conflating of nuclear war with nuclear energy is disingenuous, and without a credible alternative to nuclear energy PSR largely discounts their claim to be fighting global warming.

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Fuck. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #1
The panel says it cannot determine? FUCK it, of course these are related. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #2
Well, no, it's not obvious Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #9
Not too long ago some nuclear loving DUer upaloopa Aug 2013 #3
That was probably me. wtmusic Aug 2013 #26
. Do you have peer-reviewed evidence of deaths from coal? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #34
Fair enough. wtmusic Aug 2013 #35
you're saying it's not so bad then CreekDog Aug 2013 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #4
There's a reason that it "can't be determined" FBaggins Aug 2013 #8
The fact that this result, which demonstrates that there's been no impact... phantom power Aug 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #12
You are comparing a rate to a raw number? kristopher Aug 2013 #15
The 15-20 figure is just an example FBaggins Aug 2013 #17
Which begs the question of *why* you fabricated such a number... kristopher Aug 2013 #18
Because, unlike you, I actually understand the facts. FBaggins Aug 2013 #20
You fabricated numbers that grossly skewed the available data. kristopher Aug 2013 #21
No rational person could read that post as anything but a hypothetical. FBaggins Aug 2013 #29
Seems like many rational people did read your numbers as data-based estimates caraher Aug 2013 #62
You're saying most thyroid cancer goes into remission? cprise Aug 2013 #22
Not as I understand "remission", no. FBaggins Aug 2013 #30
They would have to be *either* remissive or not cancer at all (benign) cprise Aug 2013 #31
Not as the NIH/NCI define it. FBaggins Aug 2013 #32
you're linking to Natural News? CreekDog Aug 2013 #37
For treatment advice? Of course not. FBaggins Aug 2013 #39
Everyone does not interpret the world numerically Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #14
Who the hell is Steven Starr wtmusic Aug 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #41
He's a lab technician. wtmusic Aug 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #45
No, they didn't win a 1985 Nobel Prize for their work. wtmusic Aug 2013 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #47
It is not the same organization, and it's not an "arm". wtmusic Aug 2013 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #49
There is no such thing as an "argument from science without prejudice". wtmusic Aug 2013 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #51
Funny you mention, nuclear waste can be reused. wtmusic Aug 2013 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #55
The risk exists only because we're short on money and short on time. wtmusic Aug 2013 #56
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No prob, thanks. wtmusic Aug 2013 #59
Top UK Climate Scientist says Coal with CCS is the ONLY solution to global warming kristopher Aug 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #54
Actually... it doesn't. FBaggins Aug 2013 #43
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18 so far ... more will develop it later ... nt bananas Aug 2013 #5
Incoming n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #6
I'm sure the local nuclear apologists will be along in 3...2...1 nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #7
errr... phantom power Aug 2013 #11
errrr.... Post #15 might give you food for thought. nt kristopher Aug 2013 #16
Only if he's entirely ignorant re: what "incidence rate" means. nt FBaggins Aug 2013 #33
I said nothing about nasty or mean. There is more to come, tell me that in five, ten years. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #28
I see one of our resident nuke worshippers is already here mocking the very idea that kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #13
It doesn't. wtmusic Aug 2013 #24
in children it does? CreekDog Aug 2013 #38
It always has before FBaggins Aug 2013 #40
The page has been taken down. wtmusic Aug 2013 #23
More likely NHK is censoring it. kristopher Aug 2013 #27
The TV news video is still on youtube bananas Aug 2013 #61
There certainly seems to have been an awful lot of self-deleting on this subject ... Nihil Aug 2013 #60
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