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CRH

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34. Sir, you are correct, ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

one cannot make a generalization about mammal survival because of the diversity.

We tend to think of mammals as primates, our pets, hoofed animals and the like. But mammals also are represented by bats, shrews, squirrels, rodents, dolphins and other oceanic species, in many different environments. Some of these will probably survive 6-10 degree C rise in the global mean.

Though, there will be some challenges for mammals not faced in prior times. Evolution takes thousands - millions of years in normal circumstances, this time extreme temperature changes could be happening in a couple of centuries. Any mammal that can't avoid the frying pan or find new habitat rapidly will also be at risk. The ocean mammals will be seriously challenged not just by temperature but chemistry as well. That leaves nocturnal rodents, bats and shrews as possible survivors as habitat allows.

Adaption for most mammals to include primates, above the 6 - 10*C, though not totally impossible, is unlikely for any extended time. To imply absolute extinction at these temps is also probably too strong, but the numbers will be so few that the time involved for climate correction will stretch beyond capabilities of adaption.

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Scary thought. iemitsu Sep 2013 #1
Little Qualicum River estuary is one of my favorite places in the world NoOneMan Sep 2013 #2
People have their heads in the sand on this.. Peacetrain Sep 2013 #3
I am pessimistic, dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #9
I know ... Peacetrain Sep 2013 #10
I hear ya. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #17
They will certainly bust us back to being incapable of continuing on Warpy Sep 2013 #4
Sure, some of will survive. Those that already own their own helicopters and 50 acres in Peru. NoOneMan Sep 2013 #6
Do you really think they can buy their way out of disease? Warpy Sep 2013 #7
I don't know NoOneMan Sep 2013 #13
Garlic and Rosemary. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #14
It's called long pig, so season accordingly. Warpy Sep 2013 #20
"Long Pig"? Interesting - kind of like "Slow Elk" = cows hatrack Sep 2013 #31
According to Seinfeld... CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #21
My money is on people like William Kamkwamba. In Malawi, in REAL poverty (i.e. no jtuck004 Sep 2013 #16
I think the Donner party is the likely model pscot Sep 2013 #5
This problem is easily solvable in a generation or two. What are we waiting for? tridim Sep 2013 #8
On the conservative side, my thoughts are ... CRH Sep 2013 #11
It won't be quite that bad for mammals NickB79 Sep 2013 #33
Sir, you are correct, ... CRH Sep 2013 #34
The most precious resources will be water Iliyah Sep 2013 #12
When it starts to crumble, ... CRH Sep 2013 #18
The only thing I get disappointed about is the constant blame on the population explosion... rwsanders Sep 2013 #15
Study the petri dish, ... CRH Sep 2013 #19
+++++++++ (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #22
If population keeps increasing, there is NO solution. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #23
The constraining factors are are human behavior and time. GliderGuider Sep 2013 #24
Well said The2ndWheel Sep 2013 #25
I keep thinking about the Pied Piper. factsarenotfair Sep 2013 #26
Thank a Wall St investor. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #27
And don't forget to thank a farmer. GliderGuider Sep 2013 #28
Farmers haven't farmed for decades. Iterate Sep 2013 #30
I do thank the farmers I know. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #32
O, Bodhi! chervilant Sep 2013 #29
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