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kristopher

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8. Nuclear isn't at all compatible with renewables.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:14 PM
Oct 2013

It isn't flexible enough. The variability of renewables isn't a problem at all in a properly designed system. But, nuclear isn't part of a system properly designed for renewables, they are part of a system designed for coal.

You are also remarkably inaccurate about Germany:
1) They've been working on the plan for shutting down their nuclear fleet since 2001. This was hardly a kneejerk decision.
2) They ARE NOT replacing the nuclear with coal and gas in any meaningful sense. As has been shown on DUEE any number of times, their new fossil generation is replacing older plants that are neither as efficient nor as flexible. The new ones are designed to facilitate significant increases in the level of wind and solar generation.
3) The planning (and construction for most) of the new plants has been underway long before Fukushima. To ascribe their existence to panic is again, remarkably inaccurate.


Finally, I personally think the Japanese are in a far better position to evaluate their personal and social costs re Fukushima than you are. Your post seems to have a hard edge of pronuclear bias that dismisses the price your desires exact from others.

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winning! phantom power Oct 2013 #1
No worries, eh? pscot Oct 2013 #2
Japan seems to have had no short term options except to jump from the frying pan into the fire. nt GliderGuider Oct 2013 #3
There was at least one much better option phantom power Oct 2013 #4
The domain of "short term options" is defined by political as well as technical feasability. nt GliderGuider Oct 2013 #5
Nuclear isn't at all compatible with renewables. kristopher Oct 2013 #8
So, the solution is...more coal-fired plants? NickB79 Oct 2013 #11
Interesting article from the Grauniad, thanks! GliderGuider Oct 2013 #12
You can build coal plants optimized to support variable generation. kristopher Oct 2013 #13
Where the economics clash, the plants shut down NickB79 Oct 2013 #14
"Where the economics clash, the plants shut down" is not a given. kristopher Oct 2013 #15
Its not so much radiation that people are terrified of madokie Oct 2013 #17
We frack here dbackjon Oct 2013 #6
Great example of why spending on nuclear is counterproductive to fighting GHG emissions kristopher Oct 2013 #7
Sure, sure... PamW Oct 2013 #9
That is pretty simplistic thinking that ignores many dimensions of the issue kristopher Oct 2013 #10
You know and I know that doesn't matter to this poster who you are replying too madokie Oct 2013 #18
I don't know about you.. PamW Oct 2013 #20
Pam you can be anyone or anything you want to be, I don't really care madokie Oct 2013 #21
I never understand... PamW Oct 2013 #23
Its the way you present madokie Oct 2013 #25
If you think I've made a scientific error - Please point it out... PamW Oct 2013 #28
Scientifically WRONG!!! again PamW Oct 2013 #19
There you go again madokie Oct 2013 #22
The animals are doing fine.. PamW Oct 2013 #24
The animals aren't doing fine, thats bullshit madokie Oct 2013 #26
The reason is that animals are thriving... PamW Oct 2013 #29
Mainly because animals have short lifespans NickB79 Oct 2013 #31
You really don't see what you say, do you? kristopher Oct 2013 #27
BAD nonscientific assumption being made. PamW Oct 2013 #30
No DrGreg, I didn't make a bad assumption. kristopher Oct 2013 #32
Lets talk about this a little bit madokie Oct 2013 #16
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