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PamW

(1,825 posts)
9. Then the analogy doesn't hold....
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:16 PM
Oct 2013

Both Dr. Till and I are scientists; and the reason that we hold the opinions that we do has absolutely NOTHING to do with being a "nuclear sell-out".

The opinions of Dr. Till and I both about nuclear and about renewables are based on well-founded science.

No less than the National Academy of Science states that we can count on renewables for no more than about 20% of our electric production.

We are going to need an "all of the above" strategy, including nuclear; if we are going to meet demand without excessive emissions of GHG.

That's what the Obama Administration is pursuing right now - ALL of the above including nuclear. Don't you think that Obama would have been receptive to an "all renewables" strategy? Then why has the Obama Administration been pursuing an "all of the above" strategy; especially since his first Secretary of Energy was the former Director a national laboratory that was big in the renewables field.

The reason is that Obama's first Secretary of Energy, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Dr. Steven Chu; advised President Obama of the scientific fact that an "all renewable" plan is a non-starter that is doomed to failure because it runs afoul of a number of physical laws. Dr. Chu recommended the "all of the above" strategy.

President Obama's new Secretary of Energy, MIT Physics Professor, Dr. Ernest Moniz knows that Physics just as well as Dr. Chu, and there's no deviation from the "all of the above" strategy planned.

You may be a member of the clan that thinks we can do it all with renewables; and doesn't believe that the laws of physics are going to stand in your way. You are not alone; there are others. That's why I sign my posts with the following.

The good thing about science is that it is true, whether or not you believe in it.
--Neil deGrasse Tyson

PamW

Wonderful. Cleita Oct 2013 #1
Some governments see things in perspective.. PamW Oct 2013 #2
Find another way to boil water. wundermaus Oct 2013 #3
I'll let a scientist tell you what the problem is... PamW Oct 2013 #4
And I'll Let Max Planck rebut: Demeter Oct 2013 #5
You mean we have to let a generation of environmentalists die out? PamW Oct 2013 #6
NO, I mean we have to let a generation of nuclear sell-outs die off Demeter Oct 2013 #7
Sweetheart deal on price controls FogerRox Oct 2013 #8
£92.50 is the level they've set muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #11
The prediction for gas when the plant comes online is £74 FBaggins Oct 2013 #18
That's a sweetheart deal? FBaggins Oct 2013 #19
It's a lot less than offshore wind is getting Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #22
Then the analogy doesn't hold.... PamW Oct 2013 #9
No scientist would pervert a study like you have here. kristopher Oct 2013 #10
WRONG! PamW Oct 2013 #12
The credentials required are English language comprehension caraher Oct 2013 #14
WRONG too!! PamW Oct 2013 #15
Specifically which laws of physics are being violated? caraher Oct 2013 #16
Conservation of Energy PamW Oct 2013 #17
20% is at most a rough limit with no grid upgrades and no storage caraher Oct 2013 #20
That's not "at most"... it's exactly what they're saying. FBaggins Oct 2013 #21
Try to find the 1992 National Academy Energy Study PamW Oct 2013 #24
Well said & well sourced. FogerRox Oct 2013 #26
Well said K. FogerRox Oct 2013 #27
So many assumptions... I am sad for you. wundermaus Oct 2013 #23
So is the Hindenberg PamW Oct 2013 #25
Look, the only way we can sustain modern industrial society without fossil fuels is nuclear power. hunter Oct 2013 #13
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