Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Environment & Energy

In reply to the discussion: David Suzuki [View all]

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
19. Are you now so far gone you are saying MIT's Nuclear Dept is ...
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 01:02 AM
Oct 2013

...responsible for putting "scientifically disproven propaganda of the anti-nukes" in their reports on the status of nuclear power?

That's where the list of problems (safety, proliferation, waste and cost) comes from - and trying to obscure their conclusions with propaganda about a fuel cycle we are not prepared for nor are likely to spend money developing is nothing more than a diversion from the reality of the nuclear program the world has committed to.

While a low level, not too bright, politically rightwing technician with no dedication to the pursuit of truth in their work might would pervert a study like you have here, such an act of deception would be considered beyond the pale for anyone within the elite science circles where professional reputation is everything.

You write yet again, "No less than the National Academy of Science states that we can count on renewables for no more than about 20% of our electric production."

As you well know, that is simply untrue. The (now outdated) NAS study states that there are no recognized barriers to a penetration of up to about 20% renewables, but to move beyond and up to penetrations of about 50% would probably require specific policies that are friendlier to renewables than is currently the general norm.
ABOVE 50% they predict a need to restructure the grid in a fashion that places pre-emimence on the way variable generation is managed - ie, more storage and deployment of 'smart grid' technologies.

At no point do they EVER state we can "count on renewables for no more than 20% of our electric production".

No ethical person would make that statement about that report.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

David Suzuki [View all] handmade34 Oct 2013 OP
Dr. David Suzuki ... polly7 Oct 2013 #1
big crushes handmade34 Oct 2013 #2
Absolutely ... both brilliant. polly7 Oct 2013 #3
As a scientist,... PamW Oct 2013 #6
these two men handmade34 Oct 2013 #7
But he dislikes nuclear so he must be a bad scientist. kristopher Oct 2013 #8
Pointing out scientific ERRORS is not professional assassination PamW Oct 2013 #9
What about when the nuclear plant isn't operating properly? kristopher Oct 2013 #10
Even then... PamW Oct 2013 #11
First things first... kristopher Oct 2013 #12
WRONG!! PamW Oct 2013 #14
Do I REALLY need to share your history here again? kristopher Oct 2013 #15
WRONG!! PamW Oct 2013 #17
I would like to know.... PamW Oct 2013 #13
How about this: kristopher Oct 2013 #16
Scientifically WRONG!!!` PamW Oct 2013 #18
Are you now so far gone you are saying MIT's Nuclear Dept is ... kristopher Oct 2013 #19
We don't have any "Integral Fast Reactors",... Kolesar Oct 2013 #20
We HAD one!! PamW Oct 2013 #21
When you give just a name in your headline ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #4
point taken handmade34 Oct 2013 #5
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Environment & Energy»David Suzuki»Reply #19