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caraher

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14. The credentials required are English language comprehension
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:22 PM
Oct 2013

You don't need a degree, real or imaginary, to discover kristopher is right about what NAS reported in 2009. After discussing many ways to get to 20% renewables quickly, and potentially following that up with a further substantial increase the NAS report goes on to say

Integrating renewables at a much greater level so that they account, say, for more than 50 percent of U.S. electricity generation would require scientific advances and major changes in electricity production and use. It would also necessitate the deployment of electricity storage technologies to offset renewables’ intermittency. More details on deployment are available in Chapter 6 in Part 2 of this report, and an extensive discussion is presented in the panel report Electricity from Renewable Resources: Status, Prospects, and Impediments (NAS-NAE-NRC, 2009a).


So far from saying 20% is a cap, they actually say 50% is NOT a cap, but something that would require a lot of changes. No surprise there. And this is mostly engineering and economics, not physics...

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Wonderful. Cleita Oct 2013 #1
Some governments see things in perspective.. PamW Oct 2013 #2
Find another way to boil water. wundermaus Oct 2013 #3
I'll let a scientist tell you what the problem is... PamW Oct 2013 #4
And I'll Let Max Planck rebut: Demeter Oct 2013 #5
You mean we have to let a generation of environmentalists die out? PamW Oct 2013 #6
NO, I mean we have to let a generation of nuclear sell-outs die off Demeter Oct 2013 #7
Sweetheart deal on price controls FogerRox Oct 2013 #8
£92.50 is the level they've set muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #11
The prediction for gas when the plant comes online is £74 FBaggins Oct 2013 #18
That's a sweetheart deal? FBaggins Oct 2013 #19
It's a lot less than offshore wind is getting Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #22
Then the analogy doesn't hold.... PamW Oct 2013 #9
No scientist would pervert a study like you have here. kristopher Oct 2013 #10
WRONG! PamW Oct 2013 #12
The credentials required are English language comprehension caraher Oct 2013 #14
WRONG too!! PamW Oct 2013 #15
Specifically which laws of physics are being violated? caraher Oct 2013 #16
Conservation of Energy PamW Oct 2013 #17
20% is at most a rough limit with no grid upgrades and no storage caraher Oct 2013 #20
That's not "at most"... it's exactly what they're saying. FBaggins Oct 2013 #21
Try to find the 1992 National Academy Energy Study PamW Oct 2013 #24
Well said & well sourced. FogerRox Oct 2013 #26
Well said K. FogerRox Oct 2013 #27
So many assumptions... I am sad for you. wundermaus Oct 2013 #23
So is the Hindenberg PamW Oct 2013 #25
Look, the only way we can sustain modern industrial society without fossil fuels is nuclear power. hunter Oct 2013 #13
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