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Yo_Mama

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22. It's a lot less than offshore wind is getting

Reply to FogerRox (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:32 PM

Oct 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10296527/Offshore-wind-farms-need-higher-subsidies-says-government-adviser.html

There are of course arguments for and against the project, but I honestly would not consider the price one of them. Wholesale price does not have much to do with this type of project. Especially with wind, wholesale prices can drop very low at times because you will have big surges in production. And it's correlated. So windfarms are guaranteed a certain price in order to ensure they get built. Otherwise when a windfarm was producing the most power, it might be selling the power for astonishingly little on the market.

The reason to build large non-renewable projects is to have baseload power for the lows, which is a serious consideration in the UK.

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Sweetheart deal on price controls FogerRox Oct 2013 #8

£92.50 is the level they've set muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #11

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That's a sweetheart deal? FBaggins Oct 2013 #19

It's a lot less than offshore wind is getting Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #22

Then the analogy doesn't hold.... PamW Oct 2013 #9

No scientist would pervert a study like you have here. kristopher Oct 2013 #10

WRONG! PamW Oct 2013 #12

The credentials required are English language comprehension caraher Oct 2013 #14

WRONG too!! PamW Oct 2013 #15

Specifically which laws of physics are being violated? caraher Oct 2013 #16

Conservation of Energy PamW Oct 2013 #17

20% is at most a rough limit with no grid upgrades and no storage caraher Oct 2013 #20

That's not "at most"... it's exactly what they're saying. FBaggins Oct 2013 #21

Try to find the 1992 National Academy Energy Study PamW Oct 2013 #24

Well said & well sourced. FogerRox Oct 2013 #26

Well said K. FogerRox Oct 2013 #27

So many assumptions... I am sad for you. wundermaus Oct 2013 #23

So is the Hindenberg PamW Oct 2013 #25

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