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In reply to the discussion: Sacrificing the desert to save the Earth [View all]bananas
(27,509 posts)15. That won't come close to what's needed.
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/01/10/207320/the-full-global-warming-solution-how-the-world-can-stabilize-at-350-to-450-ppm/
The full global warming solution: How the world can stabilize at 350 to 450 ppm
By Joe Romm on Jan 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm
In this post I will lay out the solution to global warming.
This post is an update of a 2008 analysis I revised in 2009. A report by the International Energy Agency came to almost exactly the same conclusion as I did, and has relatively similar wedges, so I view that as a vindication of this overall analysis.
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This is what the entire planet must achieve:
1 wedge of albedo change through white roofs and pavement (aka soft geoengineering) see Geoengineering, adaptation and mitigation, Part 2: White roofs are the trillion-dollar solution
1 wedge of vehicle efficiency all cars 60 mpg, with no increase in miles traveled per vehicle.
1 of wind for power one million large (2 MW peak) wind turbines
1 of wind for vehicles -another 2000 GW wind. Most cars must be plug-in hybrids or pure electric vehicles.
3 of concentrated solar thermal (aka solar baseload)- ~5000 GW peak.
3 of efficiency one each for buildings, industry, and cogeneration/heat-recovery for a total of 15 to 20 million GW-hrs. A key strategy for reducing direct fossil fuel use for heating buildings (while also reducing air conditioning energy) is geothermal heat pumps.
1 of solar photovoltaics 2000 GW peak
1 wedge of nuclear power 700 GW
2 of forestry End all tropical deforestation. Plant new trees over an area the size of the continental U.S.
1 wedge of WWII-style conservation, post-2030 [this could well include dietary changes]
Here are additional wedges that require some major advances in applied research to be practical and scalable, but are considered plausible by serious analysts, especially post-2030:
1 of geothermal plus ocean-based renewables (i.e. tidal, wave, and/or ocean thermal)
1 of coal with biomass cofiring plus carbon capture and storage 400 GW of coal plus 200 GW biomass with CCS
1/2 to 1 wedge of cellulosic biofuels for long-distance transport and what little aviation remains in 2050 using 8% of the worlds cropland [or less land if yields significantly increase or algae-to-biofuels proves commercial at large scale].
1 of soils and/or biochar- Apply improved agricultural practices to all existing croplands and/or charcoal created by pyrolysis of biomass. Both are controversial today, but may prove scalable strategies.
That should do the trick. And yes, the scale is staggering.
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They aren't "sacrificing the desert" - the deserts are growing - because of global warming.
bananas
Feb 2012
#2
In the article it says that a land area as big as LA, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties
XemaSab
Feb 2012
#5
The historical Dust Bowl was due to a combination of drought and breaking up the topsoil
XemaSab
Feb 2012
#17
Hopelessly flailing against the very solution to the global warming problem still I see.
txlibdem
Feb 2012
#18
So we should destroy people's homes and livelihoods before relocating a turtle to another place?
txlibdem
Feb 2012
#33
It's too bad there aren't any big, flattish, unused, sunny surfaces in cities.
LeftyMom
Feb 2012
#35
That's why residents of those cities can put up solar panels... just don't bulldoze their homes
txlibdem
Feb 2012
#57
“…they represent but a pin prick compared to the scale of solar thermal plus solar PV that we need…”
OKIsItJustMe
Feb 2012
#54
The scale is massive, yes, but no more massive than other projects we have built
txlibdem
Feb 2012
#20
Yet even a small change to their environment will spell certain peril for their species
txlibdem
Feb 2012
#26
And how many square miles of land will be yielded uninhabitable by a solar accident?
OKIsItJustMe
Feb 2012
#27