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PamW

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37. Think about it..
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:52 PM
Nov 2013

zeemike,

Think about it. Why do you have to cool spent fuel? It's because of "decay heat" which is due to the radioactivity of the fuel. The more radioactive the fuel is; the more heat produced.

However, you must also know that radioactivity exponentially decays. So as time goes on; the exponential decay of the radioactivity, also means exponential decay of the decay heat.

A nuclear reactor is refueled about once a year to once every 18 months. Let's say we refuel every year and that we have just completed the refueling cycle for a 40 year old reactor.

So in the spent fuel pool, we have newly discharged spent fuel which is as radioactive as spent fuel gets.

We also have some that is 1 year old, with less radioactivity. We also have 2 year old fuel, 3 year old fuel....40 year old fuel.

The "younger" batches of spent fuel still haven't radioactively cooled down; so you have to keep the pumps going to cool them.

However, that decades old fuel has cooled down. That's the type of fuel that no longer needs the forced circulation, and could be put into dry cask storage if the utility has those facilities.

So when you compute how much radioactivity could be released; it is ERRONEOUS to include the radioactivity of the decades old fuel. That fuel doesn't produce much decay heat and is not going to melt even if you don't keep it submerged in circulating water. The heating rate is low enough that forced cooling is no longer necessary; so one can put those into dry casks that don't have active cooling. That fuel isn't going to melt.

You DO need the forced water cooling for the "young" spent fuel. That fuel still has the potential for melting.

But when you say how much radioactivity could possibly be released, you should ONLY count the radioactivity in the rather "young" spent fuel that has a possibility of melting.

You should NOT include the radioactivity in the decades old fuel that can't melt due to the lowered decay heat.

The only reason for using the 40 year total inventory of radioactivity including the decades old fuel that won't melt; is so you get an artificially high number so as to needlessly scare as many people as possible, which is what the anti-nuke propagandists do.

If you are a scientist; you restrict the possible radioactive release to only the "young" spent fuel that actually still needs active cooling.

The good thing about science is that it is true, whether or not you believe in it.
--Neil deGrasse Tyson

PamW

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Frightful. nt snappyturtle Nov 2013 #1
This terrifies me GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #2
And what'll really get you madokie Nov 2013 #3
:/ GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #16
Bullshit. Nuclear energy saves lives, and all the coal and gas burned to spread paranoid NNadir Nov 2013 #4
Its pretty obvious what is happening in Fukushima today madokie Nov 2013 #5
Let's see, you actually believe that as you put it, that your paranoid nuclear scare stories... NNadir Nov 2013 #17
Yup madokie Nov 2013 #24
Fukushima in PERSPECTIVE courtesy of Berkeley Professor PamW Nov 2013 #18
We'll see won't we madokie Nov 2013 #25
We agree on one thing... PamW Nov 2013 #34
a 16 month old story from the Wall Street Journal? Bennyboy Nov 2013 #27
Muller's article is still timely... PamW Nov 2013 #33
We will see ramapo Nov 2013 #6
Always look on the bright side eh? zeemike Nov 2013 #7
"what if the Pacific is contaminated"? Thor_MN Nov 2013 #10
It is not over the top at all. zeemike Nov 2013 #11
It's OPINION PamW Nov 2013 #20
Add it up...the least of them contains 50 tons. zeemike Nov 2013 #21
It's more complicated than that... PamW Nov 2013 #31
So you are telling us you are a scientist then? zeemike Nov 2013 #36
Think about it.. PamW Nov 2013 #37
"The pool contains 1,533 fuel rod assemblies, 202 of which are fresh" kristopher Nov 2013 #42
OK - let's assume 202 are fresh. PamW Nov 2013 #43
That's the wrong "fresh" FBaggins Nov 2013 #44
Well I have to thank you because you have caused me to read up on it. zeemike Nov 2013 #45
Perspective!!! PamW Nov 2013 #19
Then why did the evacuate the place? zeemike Nov 2013 #22
You've got to be kidding... PamW Nov 2013 #32
Frankly that sounds delusional to me. zeemike Nov 2013 #35
You forgot to attack Amory Lovins. You're losing your edge. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #9
Who is this "World's most predominate climate scientist"? MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #12
If you don't know who James Hansen is... caraher Nov 2013 #14
Ok. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #15
I'm sure TEPCO will accept your volunteer work, then Scootaloo Nov 2013 #26
I have to finish reading this later. liberalla Nov 2013 #8
Considering the fact that we call ourselves "The Master Race", ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #13
Could you provide us with a little background on 'fallout researcher Christina Consolo', ... CRH Nov 2013 #23
Christina Consolo is a fucking ophthalmologist! NickB79 Nov 2013 #28
I thought she invented duct tape miyazaki Nov 2013 #29
Thats all I could find too! ... Oh Well. n/t CRH Nov 2013 #30
Mighty selective head-banging you are engaging in... kristopher Nov 2013 #40
You do have a small point there NickB79 Nov 2013 #41
is ...criticality... really a possibility? quadrature Nov 2013 #38
Criticality is NOT a possibility PamW Nov 2013 #39
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