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PamW

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48. Prof Muller and the Panic of Fukushima

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:36 PM

Nov 2013

How long before the town is again inhabitable? 10 years, 20 years?

intaglio,

Professor Richard Muller points out in this article:

The Panic Over Fukushima

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332

that the radiation at Fukushima is only ONE-THIRD the radiation of Denver Colorado due to natural sources.

We allow people to live in Denver Colorado with THREE TIMES the radiation levels that the Japanese are excluding people from.

One of these days; the Japanese will "wake up".

The Japanese didn't wait after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were irradiated; and they turned out fine in post-War years.

PamW

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Mother Russia! nt Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #1

Do they have any detailed plans about how they are going to dismantle them in 20 -50 years? intaglio Nov 2013 #2

Nope to the first question. FBaggins Nov 2013 #3

A-a-a-nd where do they bury the high level waste? intaglio Nov 2013 #5

You don't understand... PamW Nov 2013 #6

Absolute and complete rubbish, indeed deliberately misleading intaglio Nov 2013 #10

Do you really not get it? FBaggins Nov 2013 #13

YES!! PamW Nov 2013 #15

So you are saying that long lived radio-isotopes are not present in nuclear waste. intaglio Nov 2013 #16

Nope... I'm not saying that. Nor most of the rest of your imagined statements. FBaggins Nov 2013 #20

This is like pulling teeth.... PamW Nov 2013 #21

So you or your guru are claiming that reprocessing is 100% efficient intaglio Nov 2013 #25

I explained that earlier. PamW Nov 2013 #33

100% WRONG as ALWAYS PamW Nov 2013 #74

So the Zirconium for the cladding is reprocessed into what exactly? intaglio Nov 2013 #75

In the self-contiained IFR fuel cycle... PamW Nov 2013 #83

Intaglio, I have been reading this Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #26

LIAR LIAR has no links PamW Nov 2013 #32

I would really prefer less accusation of lying Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #40

Scientific ILLITERACY rears its head again!! PamW Nov 2013 #14

Illiterate? intaglio Nov 2013 #17

100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Nov 2013 #22

Ignoramus intaglio Nov 2013 #28

GEESH PamW Nov 2013 #36

You are unaware of the processes in fused salt reactors intaglio Nov 2013 #45

SPECIFICS??? PamW Nov 2013 #49

If you had anything to do with science intaglio Nov 2013 #50

MORE ERRORS!!! PamW Nov 2013 #51

Is learning new (to you) terminology beyond your capabilities? caraher Nov 2013 #58

U238 will not sustain a chain reaction intaglio Nov 2013 #61

Typical IN the box "thinking" PamW Nov 2013 #57

It is necessary for nuclear fuels to sustain a chain reaction intaglio Nov 2013 #63

I explained that PamW Nov 2013 #67

I cant understand why this is being questioned!! PamW Nov 2013 #68

And since I have asked this question of the other side Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #35

The punchline... PamW Nov 2013 #56

A question please Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #34

NOPE!!! PamW Nov 2013 #37

Thank you.. Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #41

NOPE!! PamW Nov 2013 #44

So, the impurities in the water that do become radioactive Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #46

Look at the NRC diagram... PamW Nov 2013 #47

Well that's kind of what I said Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #59

EXACTLY!! Give yourself an "A+" PamW Nov 2013 #69

And how does the fluid in the primary cooling circuit move through that circuit? intaglio Nov 2013 #62

Pumps are used. PamW Nov 2013 #70

An EXTREMELY small amount... PamW Nov 2013 #90

Thank you again Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #97

Some more interesting facts. PamW Nov 2013 #98

Hmmmm... Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #99

I don't think so... PamW Nov 2013 #100

Not even the CEO & other senior management of TEPCO? GliderGuider Nov 2013 #101

TEPCO - I'll grant you TEPCO PamW Nov 2013 #103

I am talking reality, not the law Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #104

Which waste would that be? FBaggins Nov 2013 #12

Oh, fun intaglio Nov 2013 #18

Hillarious that you find such errors to be "fun" FBaggins Nov 2013 #23

And how long will the land beneath those dams be uninhabitable? intaglio Nov 2013 #38

Prof Muller and the Panic of Fukushima PamW Nov 2013 #48

Let's take those in reverse order FBaggins Nov 2013 #65

The dry well is no longer part of primary containment because it is breached intaglio Nov 2013 #66

100% WRONG as ALWAYS!! PamW Nov 2013 #71

Reference to facts not in evidence... PamW Nov 2013 #105

WRONG about MOX PamW Nov 2013 #24

Contrary to what you may have heard... PamW Nov 2013 #4

Sorry but I live in a country with as long a history as any of dismantling intaglio Nov 2013 #7

BALONEY!!! PamW Nov 2013 #9

Then check out about Calder Hall intaglio Nov 2013 #11

Gofman was DISCREDITED LONG AGO!! PamW Nov 2013 #27

Not what you said about actinides. n/t intaglio Nov 2013 #29

100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Nov 2013 #31

I gave you examples intaglio Nov 2013 #39

100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Nov 2013 #52

You don't know the Gofman story... PamW Nov 2013 #54

Windscale dismantled. PamW Nov 2013 #30

The name of the site is Sellafield now intaglio Nov 2013 #43

Windscale is still used for the two reactors. PamW Nov 2013 #53

NOTE: couldn't specify the isotope!! PamW Nov 2013 #73

Russia doubles down on "The Hard Path" kristopher Nov 2013 #8

It doesn't surprise me at all that Russia is doing this. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #19

Concentrated power likes...concentrated power. Iterate Nov 2013 #64

A Chernobyl in every pot and a Fukushima in every garage FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #42

Just another veiled way CFLDem Nov 2013 #55

"Green" hasn't replaced fossil fuels or nuclear power anywhere. hunter Nov 2013 #60

AMEN to that!! PamW Nov 2013 #72

Green is not " compatible " because we dont let it to be!!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2013 #77

You, personally, can quit fossil fuels any time you like. hunter Nov 2013 #81

As I recall... PamW Nov 2013 #84

I'm PG&E hunter Nov 2013 #87

Actually, I took the numbers off the PG&E website... PamW Nov 2013 #91

Fucking sickos!! darkangel218 Nov 2013 #76

0.1% of the power used in the world today GliderGuider Nov 2013 #78

My thoughts Aaron8418 Nov 2013 #79

What people are dying due to nuclear waste? PamW Nov 2013 #82

Nobody will die because of Fukushima?? darkangel218 Nov 2013 #88

That sucks. There should not be one more nuke plant built on this planet Cleita Nov 2013 #80

What evidence???? PamW Nov 2013 #85

What evidence do you have that radioactive waste is Cleita Nov 2013 #86

Where did I say radioactive waste was harmless? PamW Nov 2013 #92

You sure know a LOT about the industry. Cleita Nov 2013 #96

Holy shit....you mustv be jk right??? darkangel218 Nov 2013 #89

Do you realize... PamW Nov 2013 #93

Do you realize that youre beating a dead horse? darkangel218 Nov 2013 #94

RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY..... PamW Nov 2013 #95

yes because Chernobyl was such a success. MFM008 Nov 2013 #102