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PamW

(1,825 posts)
2. CORRECT!!!
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:30 AM
Nov 2013

FBaggins is correct.

It depends on how you "score" it.

Most environmentalists in their unending propaganda quest; cite nameplate rating. That is what is the maximum capacity of the plant.

Now that works fine with dispatchable technologies; technologies where we control a throttle; because we can get 100% maximum capacity on demand.

But that is INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST and GROSSLY MISLEADING for non-dispatchable renewables. A wind turbine or solar plant doesn't give you 100% power on demand. It gives you whatever Mother Nature is offering at the time.

That's why one needs to ask the question in terms of the ENERGY, which means factoring in capacity factor.

Solar power for example has an ABSOLUTE maximum limit on capacity factor of 50% - because the Sun doesn't shine at night. Actually, it's WORSE when one takes into account the angle between the Sun's radiation and the solar panel and average over that.

The easiest is to do what FBaggins suggests; and consider lifetime energy produced; and in that regard, the solar plants in the pipeline are ONE-HALF a power plant and NOT the DISHONEST EXAGGERATION of 43.

The good thing about science is that it is true, whether or not you believe in it.
--Neil deGrasse Tyson

PamW

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Or HALF of ONE plant... FBaggins Nov 2013 #1
CORRECT!!! PamW Nov 2013 #2
It's what one expects from evangelists. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #3
Very true LouisvilleDem Nov 2013 #4
CORRECT!!! PamW Nov 2013 #6
We've heard similar predictions every two years for 50 years. NNadir Nov 2013 #5
No, we haven't. nt kristopher Dec 2013 #10
Numbers from National Academy of Science show 43GW of solar is significant kristopher Dec 2013 #7
YES!!!! EXACTLY as I stated... PamW Dec 2013 #8
Argue with someone else kristopher Dec 2013 #9
The answers were already posted... PamW Dec 2013 #11
"Solar at 2c/kWh? Not a matter of if, but when – and by whom" kristopher Dec 2013 #12
but guesses and hopes need to become reality backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #13
It is reality kristopher Dec 2013 #14
your snark aside backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #15
That is bullshit. kristopher Dec 2013 #16
no your full of it backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #17
It's their motto... PamW Dec 2013 #18
true backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #19
The same goes for that BS claim. kristopher Dec 2013 #20
so now I'm a RW'er to boot backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #21
It IS a standard right wing talking point kristopher Dec 2013 #22
WTH claim do you want me to give 5 cases of? backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #23
Ah, the backtracking starts... kristopher Dec 2013 #24
Are you referring to claims solar would be a major energy player? NickB79 Dec 2013 #25
A discussion of 'potential' is not a prediction kristopher Dec 2013 #26
kris splitting hairs between prediction and potential? NickB79 Dec 2013 #27
WTF are you talking about? kristopher Dec 2013 #28
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