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XemaSab

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30. I crunched some numbers in post #29

Reply to AtheistCrusader (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:14 PM

Feb 2012

We have the area for VERY large-scale generation, all without raping virgin land.

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Sacrificing the desert to save the Earth [View all] xchrom Feb 2012 OP

If I understand recent arguments... phantom power Feb 2012 #1

To throw a monkey wrench into it XemaSab Feb 2012 #3

They aren't "sacrificing the desert" - the deserts are growing - because of global warming. bananas Feb 2012 #2

In the article it says that a land area as big as LA, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties XemaSab Feb 2012 #5

You really don't seem to understand what's happening: "Dust-Bowlification" bananas Feb 2012 #14

The historical Dust Bowl was due to a combination of drought and breaking up the topsoil XemaSab Feb 2012 #17

Hopelessly flailing against the very solution to the global warming problem still I see. txlibdem Feb 2012 #18

I have a problem with destroying open space in order to save it. XemaSab Feb 2012 #29

So we should destroy people's homes and livelihoods before relocating a turtle to another place? txlibdem Feb 2012 #33

It's too bad there aren't any big, flattish, unused, sunny surfaces in cities. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #35

We need those for green roofs to combat the heat island effect txlibdem Feb 2012 #37

In the areas we're talking about green roofs don't make much sense. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #38

The exception that proves the rule? txlibdem Feb 2012 #42

After about 30 seconds of looking, these all look like great areas: XemaSab Feb 2012 #40

Angels dancing on the head of a pin txlibdem Feb 2012 #41

You might not be losing as much as you think XemaSab Feb 2012 #44

That's why residents of those cities can put up solar panels... just don't bulldoze their homes txlibdem Feb 2012 #57

��they represent but a pin prick compared to the scale of solar thermal plus solar PV that we need�� OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #54

Industrial sites? Interesting thought pattern. txlibdem Feb 2012 #58

One problem with these numbers OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #55

Again, I'd really like to see numbers on transmission loss XemaSab Feb 2012 #59

I'd rather see a focus on incorporating solar pannels... ellisonz Feb 2012 #4

That won't come close to what's needed. bananas Feb 2012 #15

The scale is massive, yes, but no more massive than other projects we have built txlibdem Feb 2012 #20

You're talking about inches when we need miles. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #24

I crunched some numbers in post #29 XemaSab Feb 2012 #30

+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #39

Reduce Reuse Recycle AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #47

How is this saving the earth? RC Feb 2012 #6

These plants are loathesome. hunter Feb 2012 #7

This was predictable. Whenever a renewable sources becomes workable... Odin2005 Feb 2012 #8

What's wrong with deserts? XemaSab Feb 2012 #9

Nothing, but it's the best place to put large solar plants. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #10

There's plenty of desert that's already trashed... hunter Feb 2012 #12

You forgot ATV's XemaSab Feb 2012 #13

Me thinks you need to go back and read the OP RC Feb 2012 #11

Should we "mow down" your city instead? txlibdem Feb 2012 #21

What makes you think that desert species are barely eking out an existence? XemaSab Feb 2012 #22

Yet even a small change to their environment will spell certain peril for their species txlibdem Feb 2012 #26

We've had 300-year droughts here before XemaSab Feb 2012 #31

I call BS on that. You're going to have to provide some supporting evidence txlibdem Feb 2012 #34

I didn't say there was literally no water for 300 years XemaSab Feb 2012 #45

Your post is hyperbole yet still serves to prove my point txlibdem Feb 2012 #56

A few points: XemaSab Feb 2012 #60

Since you missed this the first time, I post it again. RC Feb 2012 #43

The earth will be fine.. Javaman Feb 2012 #16

word AlecBGreen Feb 2012 #63

Sorry desert! OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #19

How many homes are powered for each square mile destroyed? XemaSab Feb 2012 #23

And how many square miles of land will be yielded uninhabitable by a solar accident? OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #27

What about fracking? Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #36

I'm not a fan of fracking OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #48

Not to mention the coal mines... hunter Feb 2012 #25

+1. Truth is stronger than any cult. txlibdem Feb 2012 #28

So let's use our existing uranium XemaSab Feb 2012 #32

Or, even better XemaSab Feb 2012 #46

Let me introduce you to a word ... "subsidence" Nihil Feb 2012 #49

Yeah, I know a shopping plaza that was built on top of a landfill OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #50

That is super cool XemaSab Feb 2012 #51

Methane capture OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #53

I'd not be worried about flat (especially flexible) PV ... Nihil Feb 2012 #61

Even if you wanted to use some sort of concentrated solar� OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #62

I was thinking more like open pit mines XemaSab Feb 2012 #52

The pits could be sealed and back filled with the tailings. hunter Feb 2012 #64