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muriel_volestrangler

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19. Your figures for the military are wrong
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 01:14 PM
Nov 2013

We shouldn't imagine that getting rid of the US military would do anything close to halving the US consumption of oil or gas.

US energy consumption: 98 quadrillion Btu, of which oil 37%, gas 25% (ie 36260 trillion Btu and 24500 trillion Btu respectively)
US military energy consumption: 827 trillion Btu, of which oil 77.4%, gas 7.6% (ie 640 trillion Btu and 63 trillion Btu respectively)

So the military uses about 1.8% of the country's oil, and 0.5% of its gas. It would help a little if it were less, but the main solution does not come from there (you may have heard the statistic " 80 percent of the federal government energy consumption" for the military - but that shows that, unsurprisingly, the rest of the federal government doesn't consume much energy). I presume the claim of '15%' is because they say the US keeps the governments of OPEC in power, or something - I don't expect for a minute it's something that's actually quantifiable or worth considering.

It's not the naval carriers - it's the culture they're part of.

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K&R Joe Shlabotnik Nov 2013 #1
We'll get our moment of clarity GliderGuider Nov 2013 #6
The Neo Cons have been addressing this issue. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #2
"And it is—as James Hansen points out, this is now a moral question" Trillo Nov 2013 #3
applies to consumption of food, or not? quadrature Nov 2013 #4
Strange Lordquinton Nov 2013 #9
I see lots of people.... paleotn Nov 2013 #10
Wow. TBF Nov 2013 #16
I was shocked, shocked I tell you.. stuntcat Nov 2013 #18
How Science Is Telling Us All to Revolt Electric Monk Nov 2013 #5
just what I was looking for after reading the OP BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #23
I wish someone would take the lead on this on the world stage. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #7
The Hippies were right! bvar22 Nov 2013 #8
One day you just get there- KrazyinKS Nov 2013 #11
And remember, he who dies with the most stuff… Champion Jack Nov 2013 #12
that's right KrazyinKS Nov 2013 #22
The problem with this line of thinking is that the people who need to truedelphi Nov 2013 #13
Yes, this is what's known as an "All we need to do is..." prescription. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #14
Your figures for the military are wrong muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #19
I can't answer your information correctly on this board truedelphi Nov 2013 #20
That's OK, you don't have to 'answer correctly' now - I've put the correct figures up muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #21
I think about half my recent journal entries are anti-productivity. hunter Nov 2013 #15
The Venus Project -- TBF Nov 2013 #17
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