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NNadir

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19. Actually your evocation of "experts around the world," reminds me of Amory Lovin's 1976 "paper"...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:10 PM
Dec 2013

...that informed the world that "experts" said that we could have 16 quads of solar energy in the United States by the year 2000.

As of 2013, the entire planet doesn't produce 1 quad of solar energy, despite German expenditures of more than 100 billion Euros in subsidies and endless bull crap since then about how solar energy would save the world.

It didn't.

Cf, Lovins, A "The Road Less Traveled" Foreign Affairs October 1976, page 76.

Your claim reminds me of his, inasmuch as you produce no references, just as Lovins didn't use references in his very stupid article which some very, very, very, very gullible people still take seriously, despite the obvious experimentally observed fact that it was just garbage.

If you attempt to produce these "experts" you evoke, I have little doubt that they will all come from the circle of self referential anti-nukes who are frankly clueless.

Thank you though for finally acknowledging that German electricity and Danish electricity are the most expensive in Europe. I would like to assume that this will obviate the stupidity of people telling me that nuclear energy is "too expensive" despite the fact that electricity in France is almost half the cost of German electricity. I would like to assume, but I know in fact, I won't be spared that bit of unrealistic nonsense, because there isn't one anti-nuke on this planet who can tell a fact from a daydream, a nightmare, or a religious chant.

Apparently there aren't a lot of rich brats embracing fantasies in France who hold the poor in contempt. They're not phasing out nuclear power.

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The ONLY answer is more nuclear power. Wilms Dec 2013 #1
The opening statement is correct, the sarcasm afterwards may be addressed by noting... NNadir Dec 2013 #3
How Much Global Warming Is Guaranteed Even If We Stopped Building Coal-Fired Power Plants Today? FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #9
I see two major errors with that study NickB79 Dec 2013 #13
Still trying to greenwash the behavior of the megaCorps, eh? kristopher Dec 2013 #2
Thank you for quoting the fool investment websites. I'm, um, unimpressed. NNadir Dec 2013 #6
Your concern is *exclusively* with the nuclear industry. kristopher Dec 2013 #8
27% Reduction in World Crop Yeilds due to Global Warming by 2050 FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #10
Meaning: the high speed and low cost of renewables is crucial to a transition from carbon. kristopher Dec 2013 #11
Thank you for offering another opinion on a subject you know nothing about. NNadir Dec 2013 #12
Energy storage will be the determining marsis Dec 2013 #4
Not really. Current research and experience have altered our understanding kristopher Dec 2013 #7
Thanks marsis Dec 2013 #17
It would be an economic decision, here are some references. kristopher Dec 2013 #30
This is a trend that is world wide. The old technologies cannot tsuki Dec 2013 #5
Kick... hunter Dec 2013 #14
What do you think of Canada Free Press? kristopher Dec 2013 #15
If one lives by googling and cut and paste sound bites... NNadir Dec 2013 #16
"Germany has the second highest electricity prices in Europe, after Denmark" kristopher Dec 2013 #18
Actually your evocation of "experts around the world," reminds me of Amory Lovin's 1976 "paper"... NNadir Dec 2013 #19
There you go again. kristopher Dec 2013 #20
There isn't a single anti-nuke "solar will save us" maven who ever uses any word BUT "could..." NNadir Dec 2013 #21
So your claim is that nuclear WILL save us? kristopher Dec 2013 #22
Um...um...I really don't think that you are any more qualified to give grammar lessons than you... NNadir Dec 2013 #33
Did you even bother to look at the publication date? Iterate Dec 2013 #23
“dispossessed”? There is no involuntary homelessness in Germany. Iterate Dec 2013 #24
If German electricity was priced by the usual market methods, Iterate Dec 2013 #25
Graphing German household energy costs kristopher Dec 2013 #29
We could parse the article word-by-word, number-by-number, Iterate Dec 2013 #32
yikes gopiscrap Dec 2013 #26
Lastly, when you fling insults like that Iterate Dec 2013 #27
My, my, my, this is an elaborate series of proofs that all of the poor people in... NNadir Dec 2013 #28
"Have a nice evening" kristopher Dec 2013 #31
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