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Iterate

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25. If German electricity was priced by the usual market methods,
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:46 AM
Dec 2013

it would be about the same price as New York state, which is also approximately the EU average.

But it’s not. Half of the retail/residential price comes from taxes, the largest share of which is the federal pension fund. It is intentional pricing, and with broad public support. The goal is to keep consumption low, and that it does. You knew that. The Energiewende tax proportion of the added tax amounting to a few euros a month for most households. You knew that too.

The normal German household electricity bill ranges from 55 to 75 euros. Living on half of that is not difficult. I’m guessing a fair number of Americans average over $100/month. You probably knew that as well.

It’s been pointed out to you before. Gasoline is also high, much higher than the US. Why do you give a shit? They still generate 18% from nuclear power. Isn’t that enough?

News just in...from inside sources:

The only way to get disconnected from a German utility is to not pay them for 4-6 months, and to make no calls, explanations, or arrangements. Or you can leave a large overdue balance with no payment. It’s shocking, I know.

Possibly that can be avoided by signing up with one of the numerous discount tariff providers, often with a set usage and yearly price. The best deals are labeled "Öko", and the worst ones "Vattenfall".



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Kick... hunter Dec 2013 #14
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"Germany has the second highest electricity prices in Europe, after Denmark" kristopher Dec 2013 #18
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“dispossessed”? There is no involuntary homelessness in Germany. Iterate Dec 2013 #24
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Graphing German household energy costs kristopher Dec 2013 #29
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