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NickB79

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40. Because the science doesn't seem to support it

Sun Dec 15, 2013, 07:14 PM

Dec 2013

Some of the symptoms the OP is reporting are not typically associated with exposure to radioactive contamination. The ones that are, typically take longer than 3 years to manifest themselves even at exposure rates far above what these sailors would have been exposed to.

Hell, the adolescents in the USSR that were exposed to fallout from Chernobyl typically didn't start developing thyroid cancer or leukemia until they were in their teens, and they generally had higher overall exposures than these sailors.

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51 Sailors from USS Ronald Reagan Suffering Thyroid Cancer, Leukemia, Brain Tumors After [View all] diane in sf Dec 2013 OP

OMG. Th1onein Dec 2013 #1

This is horrible.. samrock Dec 2013 #2

Wouldn't a nuclear powered aircraft carrier have radiation monitors... Make7 Dec 2013 #3

Of course FBaggins Dec 2013 #5

You would think that they would... Blanks Dec 2013 #6

Not everyone wears a TLD badge on board a carrier MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #17

Distillation should have solved the problem PamW Dec 2013 #23

I assumed that they didn't remove all particles. Blanks Dec 2013 #24

Apparently the USS Ronald Reagan doesn't use distillation, it uses reverse osmosis bananas Dec 2013 #25

Reversed osmosis is a preferred method for removing radioactive material from drinking water idwiyo Dec 2013 #26

It's not 100% effective, radioactive contaminants will still get through bananas Dec 2013 #37

Which makes the timeline all the more suspicious NickB79 Dec 2013 #39

All that is needed now is some idea what level of radioactivity was present in sea water, idwiyo Dec 2013 #42

EXACTLY!!! PamW Dec 2013 #46

What about the air they were breathing and the water they were immersed in? kristopher Dec 2013 #56

If you re-read this particular thread again, you might notice it does not discuss idwiyo Dec 2013 #59

The water filtering system is still a red herring kristopher Dec 2013 #62

Close... but no cigar. FBaggins Dec 2013 #69

Another Baggins pronuclear fantasy kristopher Dec 2013 #73

Was there anything in there that was even a little on-topic? FBaggins Dec 2013 #76

Yes, it is character assassination. kristopher Dec 2013 #78

Dead wrong. FBaggins Dec 2013 #79

Then you have evidence. Produce it. kristopher Dec 2013 #81

See 82. FBaggins Dec 2013 #83

I wonder how long it would take... Blanks Dec 2013 #34

The sailors were told to stop using desalinated water because it was contaminated bananas Dec 2013 #89

That's how the sailors know they were exposed to radiation bananas Dec 2013 #11

It sounds like he ate before washing his hands. kristopher Dec 2013 #19

thanks for this link, I'm a little uneasy about sharing the turner news network with anybody.. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #29

Some older links, if you haven't seen them. bananas Dec 2013 #31

The non-ruling class are expendable. We're pawns in the elites' games. nt valerief Dec 2013 #4

It seems like the link is broken. FarPoint Dec 2013 #7

Here's a different link bananas Dec 2013 #8

Partial transcript bananas Dec 2013 #9

It's working for me. kristopher Dec 2013 #10

The link in the OP works for me. nt bananas Dec 2013 #12

Even if the link doesn't work... Blanks Dec 2013 #22

FYI FarPoint Dec 2013 #32

Use the nuclear-news.net link bananas Dec 2013 #36

Done. FarPoint Dec 2013 #38

It's been picked up by Al Jazeera bananas Dec 2013 #61

New info from Al Jazeera - several sailors don't have their participation in their medical records bananas Dec 2013 #72

I've got it posted on my Facebook wall... FarPoint Dec 2013 #86

"it�s only been 3 years since they went in." NickB79 Dec 2013 #13

Dubious Source ninjanurse Dec 2013 #14

I think the original source is in post #8, which is not a right-wing source. bananas Dec 2013 #21

Why do soo many people here penndragon69 Dec 2013 #15

A number of nuclear energy proponents frequent this space kristopher Dec 2013 #20

Because the science doesn't seem to support it NickB79 Dec 2013 #40

Fifty-one out of 5680? jmowreader Dec 2013 #16

Believe it or not MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #18

whoever is keeping everything clean, or working on maintenance, Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #28

Yes. And they been doing it for almost 100 years now MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #33

yah, personally I would expect it to be the radiation. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #35

Yet they missed a faulty water purification system? NickB79 Dec 2013 #41

I am sure those systems are automated MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #43

Mother Nature's Radioactivity PamW Dec 2013 #45

Ha MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #47

Take another look at the image you posted FBaggins Dec 2013 #48

I didn't say i thought or say it was anything. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #49

I am very curious why you posted some "scary" looking chart instead of idwiyo Dec 2013 #51

Just to illustrate your point: idwiyo Dec 2013 #52

Is anybody here knowledgeable about the Turner Radio Network? Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #27

I am not surprised. Sad, but not surprised. nt MADem Dec 2013 #30

Manual of Naval Preventive Medicine: Chapter 6 Water Supply Afloat kristopher Dec 2013 #44

Wow. And I assume therefore that everyone in Japan has brain tumors, luekemia and... NNadir Dec 2013 #54

I suppose you have me there... kristopher Dec 2013 #55

Really? Besides being an expert on lawyered up fantasy epidemiology... NNadir Dec 2013 #57

Deploying electric vehicles is a key element in reducing carbon emissions. kristopher Dec 2013 #58

Really? Climate change is all about cars for billionaires and millionaires? NNadir Dec 2013 #85

Please delete the holocaust denying/white nationalist link in the OP and use another muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #50

+1. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #53

+2 Thank you. Didn't bother to even look at this link, but after seeing your post I did. idwiyo Dec 2013 #60

The story is accurate kristopher Dec 2013 #63

Great, delete that despicable link and replace it with a legitimate source. idwiyo Dec 2013 #64

Despicable link? kristopher Dec 2013 #65

Please, do elaborate about my efforts to "misdirect readers ". Explanation about efficency of RO idwiyo Dec 2013 #66

You're right. kristopher Dec 2013 #67

Accepted :) Was just really surprised. We are all human, and I get very passionate too idwiyo Dec 2013 #68

I already have muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #70

Exactly some people, including me, haven't read it. kristopher Dec 2013 #74

Depends on what you're calling "the story". FBaggins Dec 2013 #71

You are in no position to make that declaration. kristopher Dec 2013 #75

Actually... I am. FBaggins Dec 2013 #77

And I spent 8 years in command and control kristopher Dec 2013 #80

I have plenty of evidence... and I pointed you at it. FBaggins Dec 2013 #82

Getting washed to remove radioactive contamination. kristopher Dec 2013 #84

Don't you think you would have more credibility... FBaggins Dec 2013 #87

100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Dec 2013 #88