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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
73. Another Baggins pronuclear fantasy
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:22 PM
Dec 2013

You really need to learn a new trick. You've been using character assassination on anyone that dares challenge the nuclear industry for so long it writes itself for you. Do you have a prepared template where you just substitute the name of the moment?

Here, tell us how corruption, stupidity, confusion, antinuclear bias, and hatred of humankind are behind the opposition to nuclear power of 5 former Japanese Prime Ministers (including one of the architects of Japan's nuclear program).

"So Koizumi's opposition to the nuclear village’s agenda is consistent with the mindset of other former prime ministers once they were out of the bubble of policymaking dominated by vested interests and concerns about their income streams."

In context:
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Volume 11, Issue 50, No.3, December 16, 2013.

Just Gas? Smart Power and Koizumi’s Anti-Nuclear Challenge

Andrew DeWit

Japan’s former Prime Minister Koizumi Junichiro has repeatedly called for current Prime Minister Abe Shinzo to make an explicit decision to get out of nuclear power. Koizumi’s full-scale press conference on this matter, held on November 12 in front of 350 journalists, shook up the Abe cabinet. It continues to do so, judging by the tendentious commentary it continues to attract. Koizumi forced the cabinet to address an item they clearly wanted to finesse for the time being.1 But the substance of Koizumi’s over hour-long event has not yet received the attention it merits. This article puts Koizumi’s talk in context, showing that his position is shared by all the former Japanese prime ministers, including Nakasone Yasuhiro. Most important, contrary to the claim that Japan’s choice is either gas or nuclear, Koizumi highlighted the ongoing deployment of radical efficiency and renewable energy as the proper path forward. And the accelerating rollout of smart cities across Japan suggests that Koizumi and his colleagues are standing on the right side of history.

Koizumi’s motives for speaking out continue to be the subject of speculation in the Japanese media, including a paranoid claim that he must be in hock to the US shale gas lobby.2 But one of Koizumi’s most fervent supporters is PM Abe’s own wife, Abe Akie, a significant political figure in her own right and one very knowledgeable about energy alternatives.3 Koizumi’s anti-nuclear position is also not a sudden development or apparently one driven by pecuniary self-interest. Koizumi has been publicly mooting his concerns about nuclear power since at least 2012, and during early August of 2013 went on a fact-finding mission (with the nuclear engineers of Hitachi, Toshiba and Mitsubishi) to Germany and Finland.4 Koizumi also alienated the 80 establishment firms, including prominent members from the nuclear village, grouped in the Centre for International Public Policy Studies set up in March of 2007 with YEN 1.8 billion of their funding and Koizumi as chairman.5

Nor is Koizumi the odd-man-out, at least in the league of present and former PMs. Rather, Abe is: former Prime Ministers Nakasone Yasuhiro, Hatoyama Yukio, Noda Yoshihiko, and Kan Naoto have all also expressed opposition to nuclear power and declared that that Japan must pursue alternatives. Nakasone's statement was especially surprising, because he was one of the father's of Japan's nuclear effort. Yet at a June 26, 2011 "Solar Economy Kanagawa" conference held in Yokohama, Nakasone declared that "nuclear power damages humankind" and called for a large-scale cultural shift to harvesting energy while co-existing with nature.6

So Koizumi's opposition to the nuclear village’s agenda is consistent with the mindset of other former prime ministers once they were out of the bubble of policymaking dominated by vested interests and concerns about their income streams. What makes Koizumi’s position stand out is the fact that he is enormously popular, even though he left the office of Prime Minister seven years ago. PM Abe is indeed Koizumi's protegé, and leads a party in which there are already widespread misgivings about the commitment to restarts and talk of new reactor construction.7

One core argument of the narrative that would dismiss Koizumi’s intervention as “emotional” is that it offered no alternatives. This assertion is nonsense. ...

http://japanfocus.org/-Andrew-DeWit/4049

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OMG. Th1onein Dec 2013 #1
This is horrible.. samrock Dec 2013 #2
Wouldn't a nuclear powered aircraft carrier have radiation monitors... Make7 Dec 2013 #3
Of course FBaggins Dec 2013 #5
You would think that they would... Blanks Dec 2013 #6
Not everyone wears a TLD badge on board a carrier MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #17
Distillation should have solved the problem PamW Dec 2013 #23
I assumed that they didn't remove all particles. Blanks Dec 2013 #24
Apparently the USS Ronald Reagan doesn't use distillation, it uses reverse osmosis bananas Dec 2013 #25
Reversed osmosis is a preferred method for removing radioactive material from drinking water idwiyo Dec 2013 #26
It's not 100% effective, radioactive contaminants will still get through bananas Dec 2013 #37
Which makes the timeline all the more suspicious NickB79 Dec 2013 #39
All that is needed now is some idea what level of radioactivity was present in sea water, idwiyo Dec 2013 #42
EXACTLY!!! PamW Dec 2013 #46
What about the air they were breathing and the water they were immersed in? kristopher Dec 2013 #56
If you re-read this particular thread again, you might notice it does not discuss idwiyo Dec 2013 #59
The water filtering system is still a red herring kristopher Dec 2013 #62
Close... but no cigar. FBaggins Dec 2013 #69
Another Baggins pronuclear fantasy kristopher Dec 2013 #73
Was there anything in there that was even a little on-topic? FBaggins Dec 2013 #76
Yes, it is character assassination. kristopher Dec 2013 #78
Dead wrong. FBaggins Dec 2013 #79
Then you have evidence. Produce it. kristopher Dec 2013 #81
See 82. FBaggins Dec 2013 #83
I wonder how long it would take... Blanks Dec 2013 #34
The sailors were told to stop using desalinated water because it was contaminated bananas Dec 2013 #89
That's how the sailors know they were exposed to radiation bananas Dec 2013 #11
It sounds like he ate before washing his hands. kristopher Dec 2013 #19
thanks for this link, I'm a little uneasy about sharing the turner news network with anybody.. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #29
Some older links, if you haven't seen them. bananas Dec 2013 #31
The non-ruling class are expendable. We're pawns in the elites' games. nt valerief Dec 2013 #4
It seems like the link is broken. FarPoint Dec 2013 #7
Here's a different link bananas Dec 2013 #8
Partial transcript bananas Dec 2013 #9
It's working for me. kristopher Dec 2013 #10
The link in the OP works for me. nt bananas Dec 2013 #12
Even if the link doesn't work... Blanks Dec 2013 #22
FYI FarPoint Dec 2013 #32
Use the nuclear-news.net link bananas Dec 2013 #36
Done. FarPoint Dec 2013 #38
It's been picked up by Al Jazeera bananas Dec 2013 #61
New info from Al Jazeera - several sailors don't have their participation in their medical records bananas Dec 2013 #72
I've got it posted on my Facebook wall... FarPoint Dec 2013 #86
"it’s only been 3 years since they went in." NickB79 Dec 2013 #13
Dubious Source ninjanurse Dec 2013 #14
I think the original source is in post #8, which is not a right-wing source. bananas Dec 2013 #21
Why do soo many people here penndragon69 Dec 2013 #15
A number of nuclear energy proponents frequent this space kristopher Dec 2013 #20
Because the science doesn't seem to support it NickB79 Dec 2013 #40
Fifty-one out of 5680? jmowreader Dec 2013 #16
Believe it or not MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #18
whoever is keeping everything clean, or working on maintenance, Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #28
Yes. And they been doing it for almost 100 years now MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #33
yah, personally I would expect it to be the radiation. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #35
Yet they missed a faulty water purification system? NickB79 Dec 2013 #41
I am sure those systems are automated MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #43
Mother Nature's Radioactivity PamW Dec 2013 #45
Ha MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #47
Take another look at the image you posted FBaggins Dec 2013 #48
I didn't say i thought or say it was anything. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #49
I am very curious why you posted some "scary" looking chart instead of idwiyo Dec 2013 #51
Just to illustrate your point: idwiyo Dec 2013 #52
Is anybody here knowledgeable about the Turner Radio Network? Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #27
I am not surprised. Sad, but not surprised. nt MADem Dec 2013 #30
Manual of Naval Preventive Medicine: Chapter 6 Water Supply Afloat kristopher Dec 2013 #44
Wow. And I assume therefore that everyone in Japan has brain tumors, luekemia and... NNadir Dec 2013 #54
I suppose you have me there... kristopher Dec 2013 #55
Really? Besides being an expert on lawyered up fantasy epidemiology... NNadir Dec 2013 #57
Deploying electric vehicles is a key element in reducing carbon emissions. kristopher Dec 2013 #58
Really? Climate change is all about cars for billionaires and millionaires? NNadir Dec 2013 #85
Please delete the holocaust denying/white nationalist link in the OP and use another muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #50
+1. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #53
+2 Thank you. Didn't bother to even look at this link, but after seeing your post I did. idwiyo Dec 2013 #60
The story is accurate kristopher Dec 2013 #63
Great, delete that despicable link and replace it with a legitimate source. idwiyo Dec 2013 #64
Despicable link? kristopher Dec 2013 #65
Please, do elaborate about my efforts to "misdirect readers ". Explanation about efficency of RO idwiyo Dec 2013 #66
You're right. kristopher Dec 2013 #67
Accepted :) Was just really surprised. We are all human, and I get very passionate too idwiyo Dec 2013 #68
I already have muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #70
Exactly some people, including me, haven't read it. kristopher Dec 2013 #74
Depends on what you're calling "the story". FBaggins Dec 2013 #71
You are in no position to make that declaration. kristopher Dec 2013 #75
Actually... I am. FBaggins Dec 2013 #77
And I spent 8 years in command and control kristopher Dec 2013 #80
I have plenty of evidence... and I pointed you at it. FBaggins Dec 2013 #82
Getting washed to remove radioactive contamination. kristopher Dec 2013 #84
Don't you think you would have more credibility... FBaggins Dec 2013 #87
100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Dec 2013 #88
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