51 Sailors from USS Ronald Reagan Suffering Thyroid Cancer, Leukemia, Brain Tumors After

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87. Don't you think you would have more credibility...

... if after insisting on links... you actually read them?

When they entered the cloud they were unaware of it or they would have not been in it... there was no reason known to the Captain for those extremely cumbersome procedures to be in effect.

From the article - "the radiation was first detected by air particulate detectors aboard three helicopters located 60 miles away from the shoreline. The helicopters were returning to the carrier from a relief mission to the quake and tsunami ravaged city of Sendai. "


there was no reason known to the Captain for those extremely cumbersome procedures to be in effect

I also pointed out that anti-nuclear sources for this story that they were in effect... so it's moot whether or not you think the captain had a reason to do it... or think that it's "cumbersome". Enis himself says that the ship was locked down and they were told to carry "gas masks".

As for the assertion about the amount of exposure, I don't place a great deal of faith in them being forthcoming about that in press releases.

Why? They had no potential liability (despite your "blowback" claim) to guard against and it's consistent with the releases at the time and the distance from the plant. If the entire area were far more contaminated... they still would have been performing rescue operations. That's what they do. They risk dying right now... they don't cringe at a slightly greater chance of a thyroid problem in a couple decades.

On the other hand, it's entirely reasonable to question this ambulance chaser when he's trying to get a cut of a big government settlement.

but it is more than you had when you starting hurling accusations

Not really. The first assertion was enough. This doesn't pass the smell test. The claimed (and entirely undocumented) health effects that could potentially be radiation related (cancers) wouldn't appear this early even at far FAR higher exposure rates... and the non-cancer effects of radiation (bleeding, etc) don't last for three years - let alone appear after three years (and only occur an doses so astronomically higher than are plausible here that we can be certain they're unrelated).

Other obvious issues with his claims:

The ship wasn't a mile or two from the plant (as Enis claims)... it was over 100 miles. That's huge. Look at the contamination on land for the worst parts of the plume that stayed over Japan. There are places where you can't live 24/7... but nowhere that getting wrapped in an exposed cloth and then having that contamination thoroughly washed off shortly thereafter would leave you with any kind if significant dosage... and this was much farther away.

The Navy wouldn't have them sign away their rights to sue... because even if the story were true and the exposure were much higher... they wouldn't have the right to sue.

There isn't any evidence at all for the water supply being contaminated. It's just the attorney's way of making an exposure for most of his clients seem plausible. They aren't part of the rescue operations... they don't even go on deck... how can he make their headaches part of his case?

Plim clims in her interview that they didn't know for weeks about a radiation leak... and the ship didn't go on lockdown for a month. Yet you can see that I've provided photos of comprehensive cleanup reported from well before that point.




On edit - Look... this isn't anything new. Let's ask a hypothetical question. There's a radiation release in the news at a local nuclear power plant. In a population the size of the downwind town... you would expect (absent any radiation at all) ten cases of thyroid cancer per year. This entirely expected result (ignoring expected increases due to the effect of better diagnostic equipment) actually occurs and thirty people are diagnosed with thyroid cancer over the next three years.

Question - How many of those thirty people will assume that their cancer was caused by the radiation release?