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PamW

(1,825 posts)
4. Police State is NOT needed
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jan 2014

cprise states
At the very least, it would require an unprecedented police state to prevent any hint of dangerous rebellion aimed at the reactors.

The anti-nuclear community has been saying that we need a police state if we have reactors for the last 4 decades.

We have over 100 nuclear power reactors in the USA; and there has never been a need for a police state to prevent an attack on a reactor.

First, the reactors have their own very capable security forces.

Secondly, frankly I don't know what a terrorist would do. All the people who "think" a reactor is a good terrorist target don't know the insides of a reactor plant. The plants are designed so that it would be extremely difficult to cause a meltdown. The Fukushima reactors don't meet USA NRC safety specifications since the Japanese didn't adhere to the GE designs that they licensed. In the wake of Three Mile Island, limits were replaced on the operator controls ( the NRC mandated the limits be removed so operators could over-ride automatic systems ); so that even operators would have difficulty causing problems.

Third, the timescale for meltdowns is days. It takes over a day, and more likely a few to develop a problem, and reinforcements can be summoned in less time than that.

So there's no need for a "police state"; now or in the future with more plants.

It's a "scare tactic" dredged up from the past to scare people into acting / forming opinions without thinking.

The good think about science is that it is true, whether or not you believe in it.
--Neil deGrasse Tyson

PamW

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Its not a matter of If madokie Jan 2014 #1
What gets me is they propose a huge expansion of nuclear cprise Jan 2014 #2
Police State is NOT needed PamW Jan 2014 #4
And don't forget, "Deadly Force is Authorized!!!" kristopher Jan 2014 #5
Yes - that does happen to be a FACT!!! PamW Jan 2014 #8
But you went about 10 miles beyond that, didn't you? kristopher Jan 2014 #9
Your are welcome... PamW Jan 2014 #12
"Just go to one of DOE's nuclear weapons facilities" kristopher Jan 2014 #25
Tell that to... PamW Jan 2014 #27
I'm fascinated by the robot machine gun part caraher Jan 2014 #28
Samsung SGR-A1 PamW Jan 2014 #29
This is the lady who "got off" without being shot Iterate Jan 2014 #13
It turned out better than it could have. PamW Jan 2014 #15
That last line is straight out of Beck, Fox, or Limbaugh, Iterate Jan 2014 #19
It's my own words... PamW Jan 2014 #20
That's one of the most bizzare self-claims of "great minds think alike" Iterate Jan 2014 #24
Let's see... PamW Jan 2014 #22
By that standard MLK, Ghandi, Thoreau, John Lewis, Bill McKibben, Nelson Mandela, Iterate Jan 2014 #23
You made my point.. PamW Jan 2014 #26
Not surprised you'd call that (too short) list a "rogues gallery" and hold them "in EXTREME disdain" Iterate Jan 2014 #30
Rouges Gallery PamW Jan 2014 #31
Of course you have to exclude King and Mandela from "the rouges gallery". Iterate Jan 2014 #33
Martin Luther King protested using Civil Disobediance, do you think he shouldn't have? CreekDog Jan 2014 #36
How bad were those releases? PamW Jan 2014 #18
How do you defend the USA? PamW Jan 2014 #32
Utterly bizarre Iterate Jan 2014 #34
DELUSIONAL???? PamW Jan 2014 #35
Astonishingly, Sister Megan Rice didn't train to negotiate with Putin. Iterate Jan 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author madokie Jan 2014 #39
O RLY? cprise Jan 2014 #6
OH PULEEEEZ... PamW Jan 2014 #7
You are damned by your own words, PG. kristopher Jan 2014 #10
Shilling for the nuclear power industry madokie Jan 2014 #11
I know there's an element of hysteria re: dirty bombs cprise Jan 2014 #14
Not inconsistent at all PamW Jan 2014 #16
You do so implicitly cprise Jan 2014 #17
I AM proud of them PamW Jan 2014 #21
Taiwan has been having a huge debate since before Fukushima kristopher Jan 2014 #3
Taiwan Nuclear Energy arachadillo Jan 2014 #37
Nuclear power justifies extending use of deadly force authority to rent-a-cops? kristopher Feb 2014 #40
This is not something where security officers will be able to shoot protestors. MADem Feb 2014 #41
I think it adds a layer of implied legitimacy to any such action kristopher Mar 2014 #43
That murdering Zimmerman isn't a good example, though. MADem Mar 2014 #44
The actions of the militarized police demonstrate what that worries me. kristopher Mar 2014 #45
Well, all of our energy systems are vulnerable--if not to people trying to breach MADem Mar 2014 #46
The social consequences of nuclear power are unique kristopher Mar 2014 #47
Someone hacking the electricity grid can do a helluva lotta damage and that doesn't matter MADem Mar 2014 #48
Apples and oranges kristopher Mar 2014 #49
Well, I like wind and solar, myself. MADem Mar 2014 #50
+1 kristopher Mar 2014 #51
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