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In reply to the discussion: Fukushima No. 1 engineer’s warning to Taiwan: Nuclear power unstable [View all]Iterate
(3,021 posts)If you didn't that would be racist, right? Not cool to have "EXTREME disdain" for those two.
But that puts you in a tight spot, because you then have to delineate their cause from others, so their cause becomes inalienable rights, and everything else becomes a mere contemptible protest against law and majority, even when, in fact, the majority was most often with the protest and the laws were either inequitable or simple misdemeanors. Not that any of that really matters to you; your vengeful reactions to any protest or protestor is clear enough.
But you forgot Lewis. And as I remember, Hayden was also a Freedom Rider for a time; he's been active in environmental issues as well. And Bikko, you missed him, and without him Mandela's exclusion from the your "rogues gallery" makes no sense. Rice and Cordaro were active in civil rights issues, labor and environment too. Martin Luther King was anti-war and freshly active in the labor movement when he was killed.
Sparing Rigoberta Menchú from "EXTREME disdain" on your personally-approved list makes no sense, as she's cut from the same cloth as King and Mandela. Allow me to save some typing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigoberta_Mench%C3%BA
Ooops, look what happened when I pulled that string. Around the world, connected.
Berkeley started as an "inalienable rights" free speech movement that Reagan hated so much, but the conflict with Reagan grew over a fight against the seizure of private property for a development. Somewhere down that chain of events James Rector gets killed watching from a rooftop. It sometimes happens when you bring in the military to enforce...property seizure rights.
It's most puzzling though that you'd leave off Gandhi, except that if you include him as safe from your "rogues gallery", as the founder of the modern non-violent movement you would certainly need to include Lanza del Vasto, his student and collaborator. I can see where that would be uncomfortable for you, as del Vasto went over time from a campaign in Algeria against torture (I assume it's an inalienable right not to be tortured), but then moved on to non-violent protest against the seizure of farmland for a military base, and later protests against French nuclear weapons, reactors, and plutonium production.
And Sophie Scholl, she passed out illegal pamphlets; no free speech for her and executed within days. She knew the law; she didn't "shut up".
The unifying theme here is that all of these people who lived long enough learned that human rights, civil rights, labor, social justice, peace(or at least anti-miltary expansion), community control, and a healthy environment are inexorably connected. That concept is now well-established. In practice, at one extreme you have Haiti, the other Denmark. In practice, civil rights and social justice are low carbon; militarized police states, not so much.
And that's why this matters in E&E. That's why your contempt for non-violent civil disobedience and glee with their persecutions and prosecutions matters -all in the defense of the military excess, nuclear weapons, nuclear power, Keystone, assumed property rights, and abusive, corrupt regimes. Again the relevant awkward translation from India: "They have been conducting a search raid in all the houses. They have been also announcing that if Udayakumar was found in any of the houses, the whole family would be encountered to death. That's the police state you support.
Al Gore gets it. He might have been half a beat late and unnecessarily tempered, but there it is again:
"If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done, I believe we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration."
Now march and chant along with with Al (he's a Democrat):"we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience". Fire away.