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In reply to the discussion: Lying With Charts, Global Warming Edition [View all]Nederland
(9,979 posts)55. You raise an interesting point
Yes, the IPCC underestimated how fast CO2 levels would rise. However, those same CO2 level predictions that the IPCC underestimated were used by the computer models to predict future temperatures. Now logically one would expect that if the CO2 levels the models used in their calculations were too low, the temperature outputs of those model would be too low as well. Instead, we see the reverse is true--IPCC computer models have consistently predicted temperatures that were higher than those that were observed. This demonstrates just how poor the models are at this point in time, and proves beyond doubt that we do not understand climate well enough to know what the future will look like.
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OKIsItJustMe
Feb 2012
#14
Riddle me this: why, then, is the arctic ice in severe decline, as is shown in this graph?
XemaSab
Feb 2012
#16
You have not indicated how much warming you believe we will see over the next 100 years.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#48
I am a firm believer that this is happening and it's gonna be hardcore when it really hits
XemaSab
Feb 2012
#51
Inflection points and non-linear responses are common discussion topics in climate change circles.
GliderGuider
Feb 2012
#26
I used it in relation to particular behviours of the system, not the system overall.
GliderGuider
Feb 2012
#40
The term "massive" is subjective. Obviously I can only make a persuasive argument.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#49
Given the uncertainties in modeling I think it's fairer to go with the spread.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#73