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CRH

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22. Not sure it is an incorrect argument, many others are concerned, ...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:10 AM
Mar 2014

This article it seems is more influenced by geo political concerns than a plot by the nuclear industry.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/10/101001-energy-rare-earth-metals/

In this article, again the nuclear component seems to be lacking. It is more a general economic and trade issue in the political forum. It shows that industry is searching for ways to minimize or replace the use of rare earth metals, but that there is a need as stated earlier, for technologies to continue to evolve to overcome an availability issue.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/03/120330-china-rare-earth-minerals-energy/

This article is from the mining industry, in the economic challenges of mining extraction and processing of rare earth metals. Again, no direct connection to the nuclear lobby. The industry does see a shortfall in the future. This article is from May 2013, so the problem still persists for the supply chain for industry in general, not just renewable energy.
http://www.miningweekly.com/article/critical-alternative-rare-earths-sources-still-not-secured-since-chinas-2010-export-restrictions-2013-05-17-1

New demand has recently strained supply, and there is growing concern that the world may soon face a shortage of rare earths. Within several years, global demand for rare earths elements is expected to exceed supply by 40 000 t/y unless significant new sources are developed.

Rare-earth elements consist of 17 elements on the periodic table, including 15 elements beginning with atomic number 57 (lanthanum), extending through to number 71 (lutetium), and including the elements yttrium and scandium, which have similar properties.

These are referred to as “rare” because, although relatively abundant in total quantity, they appear in low concentrations in the earth’s crust and extraction and processing are both difficult and costly.

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A new research group has been recently formed to address this shortage that is of an obvious concern to many others in industry. It is a DOE project, The Critical Minerals Institute.
https://cmi.ameslab.gov

As stated earlier, it will be one of the challenges that faces wind, solar, and other industries associated, to keep evolving. The build out the OP, the IEA paper says is possible, would be massive. And the demand on materials will be a part of that challenge. But it is a concern that reaches far beyond the nuclear lobby.

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it must, so it will Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #1
Not necessarily. GliderGuider Feb 2014 #5
I'm sticking with hope. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #19
It's not over till the fat lady sings, as they say. nt GliderGuider Feb 2014 #20
The BAU mindset is like ketchup cprise Feb 2014 #2
We have to keep demanding a change. nt WhiteTara Feb 2014 #3
It continues to bug me.... phantom power Feb 2014 #4
Why couldn't demand be adapted pscot Feb 2014 #6
sure, the "power-down" scenario is always out there phantom power Feb 2014 #7
I'm sure we could stand just a tiny bit pscot Feb 2014 #9
We powered down 50 years ago, in a way FogerRox Mar 2014 #30
That is always an integral part of planning for a distributed, renewable energy system kristopher Feb 2014 #10
You're significantly misstating the findings of the study; which is one of probably hundreds... kristopher Feb 2014 #11
Here is one for China kristopher Feb 2014 #13
NREL Renewables Futures Study kristopher Feb 2014 #14
If you look at real world examples Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #26
The challenges will be many, ... CRH Feb 2014 #8
In the large picture resource constraints affecting renewable rollout are nil. kristopher Feb 2014 #12
you see nuclear phantoms, where there are none. n/t CRH Feb 2014 #18
Where do you think an incorrect argument like that originates? kristopher Feb 2014 #21
Not sure it is an incorrect argument, many others are concerned, ... CRH Mar 2014 #22
I understand your perspective and all of the information you've brought in. kristopher Mar 2014 #23
You are still not representing what I said accurately, ... CRH Mar 2014 #24
Really? kristopher Mar 2014 #25
The real significance of this study isn't the findings - it is who is publishing those findings kristopher Feb 2014 #15
“Integration is not simply about adding wind and solar on top of ‘business as usual,” NickB79 Feb 2014 #16
You've been seeing it... kristopher Feb 2014 #17
This seems a bit of a distortion Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #27
How so? kristopher Mar 2014 #28
An excerpt from the Executive Summary: GliderGuider Mar 2014 #29
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