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CRH

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24. You are still not representing what I said accurately, ...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:40 PM
Mar 2014

from your post 23 -

- However, there was a flood of articles that tried to instill in public consciousness exactly the idea that wind and solar can't meet global energy demand because there was some sort of rare material required.

You, inadvertently I'm sure, were participating in that when you included it as a caveat about wind and solar:
"Rare earth metals creates another interesting dynamic, politically and economically. Recycling will only go so far. For solar and wind to carry the bulk of energy transformation, at projected demand, the acquisition of rare earth metals will certainly be tested.


You conveniently omitted the first sentence of that paragraph cherry picking what you can reframe into your nuclear hysteria. The first sentence qualifies the excerpted statement, from my post. When speaking of the 'challenges' of wind and solar to fulfill the IEA report's energy transformation prediction, -

Also the need for constant evolution in the technology and materials. Rare earth metals creates another interesting dynamic, politically and economically. Recycling will only go so far. For solar and wind to carry the bulk of energy transformation, at projected demand, the acquisition of rare earth metals will certainly be tested.

Nowhere in that statement was the idea communicated, "wind and solar can't meet global energy demand."

Then you top off your perception of the post with this:

You can certainly reframe that by pointing to the existence of a broader discussion on the topic, but it's pretty evident by the juxtaposition of remark to the content of the OP that you were expressing a belief about the inadequacy of wind and solar and were not making a comment on the above described market dynamics of rare earth elements.

You just substituted my word of 'challenge' for your word of 'inadequacy'.

And then:

The reason you possess such a belief is almost certainly the result of the efforts of the nuclear industry's crusade against renewable energy because they are they group that has been promoting that specific misconception.

Yawn, back to your nuclear phantoms.

If I am so against renewables, why do I have a grid tied 1.92 Kw solar array with an additional .5 Kw evacuated tube solar hot water system, sitting on my roof? Why am I elated with their purpose, function and savings. Seems a strange emotion for a person who by your account, has been brainwashed into renewable bashing and promoting a pro nuclear solution.

Life is too short, … good day, kristopher

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it must, so it will Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #1
Not necessarily. GliderGuider Feb 2014 #5
I'm sticking with hope. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #19
It's not over till the fat lady sings, as they say. nt GliderGuider Feb 2014 #20
The BAU mindset is like ketchup cprise Feb 2014 #2
We have to keep demanding a change. nt WhiteTara Feb 2014 #3
It continues to bug me.... phantom power Feb 2014 #4
Why couldn't demand be adapted pscot Feb 2014 #6
sure, the "power-down" scenario is always out there phantom power Feb 2014 #7
I'm sure we could stand just a tiny bit pscot Feb 2014 #9
We powered down 50 years ago, in a way FogerRox Mar 2014 #30
That is always an integral part of planning for a distributed, renewable energy system kristopher Feb 2014 #10
You're significantly misstating the findings of the study; which is one of probably hundreds... kristopher Feb 2014 #11
Here is one for China kristopher Feb 2014 #13
NREL Renewables Futures Study kristopher Feb 2014 #14
If you look at real world examples Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #26
The challenges will be many, ... CRH Feb 2014 #8
In the large picture resource constraints affecting renewable rollout are nil. kristopher Feb 2014 #12
you see nuclear phantoms, where there are none. n/t CRH Feb 2014 #18
Where do you think an incorrect argument like that originates? kristopher Feb 2014 #21
Not sure it is an incorrect argument, many others are concerned, ... CRH Mar 2014 #22
I understand your perspective and all of the information you've brought in. kristopher Mar 2014 #23
You are still not representing what I said accurately, ... CRH Mar 2014 #24
Really? kristopher Mar 2014 #25
The real significance of this study isn't the findings - it is who is publishing those findings kristopher Feb 2014 #15
“Integration is not simply about adding wind and solar on top of ‘business as usual,” NickB79 Feb 2014 #16
You've been seeing it... kristopher Feb 2014 #17
This seems a bit of a distortion Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #27
How so? kristopher Mar 2014 #28
An excerpt from the Executive Summary: GliderGuider Mar 2014 #29
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