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FogerRox

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30. We powered down 50 years ago, in a way
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 05:53 PM
Mar 2014

So many things business does is reliant on when and how much they can get electricity for. Manufacturing was set up that way for a reason, so what if the reasons change as new sources of renewables come on line.

Demand goes down at night by about 40%, Utilities have discounted prices to industry, who then run 2nd & 3rd shifts because the savings in energy is more then the cost the midnight shift compared to the day shift. Yes theres more to it....but the point should be clear.

So lets start over....

If solar can deliver LCOE at 5 cents/kwh peak demand daytime in the near future.... how can this reshape how the labor pool is utilized?

Markets will move to renewables for the price, this is already happening with wind. The size of offshore HVDC wind projects has doubled in 4 years.

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it must, so it will Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #1
Not necessarily. GliderGuider Feb 2014 #5
I'm sticking with hope. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #19
It's not over till the fat lady sings, as they say. nt GliderGuider Feb 2014 #20
The BAU mindset is like ketchup cprise Feb 2014 #2
We have to keep demanding a change. nt WhiteTara Feb 2014 #3
It continues to bug me.... phantom power Feb 2014 #4
Why couldn't demand be adapted pscot Feb 2014 #6
sure, the "power-down" scenario is always out there phantom power Feb 2014 #7
I'm sure we could stand just a tiny bit pscot Feb 2014 #9
We powered down 50 years ago, in a way FogerRox Mar 2014 #30
That is always an integral part of planning for a distributed, renewable energy system kristopher Feb 2014 #10
You're significantly misstating the findings of the study; which is one of probably hundreds... kristopher Feb 2014 #11
Here is one for China kristopher Feb 2014 #13
NREL Renewables Futures Study kristopher Feb 2014 #14
If you look at real world examples Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #26
The challenges will be many, ... CRH Feb 2014 #8
In the large picture resource constraints affecting renewable rollout are nil. kristopher Feb 2014 #12
you see nuclear phantoms, where there are none. n/t CRH Feb 2014 #18
Where do you think an incorrect argument like that originates? kristopher Feb 2014 #21
Not sure it is an incorrect argument, many others are concerned, ... CRH Mar 2014 #22
I understand your perspective and all of the information you've brought in. kristopher Mar 2014 #23
You are still not representing what I said accurately, ... CRH Mar 2014 #24
Really? kristopher Mar 2014 #25
The real significance of this study isn't the findings - it is who is publishing those findings kristopher Feb 2014 #15
“Integration is not simply about adding wind and solar on top of ‘business as usual,” NickB79 Feb 2014 #16
You've been seeing it... kristopher Feb 2014 #17
This seems a bit of a distortion Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #27
How so? kristopher Mar 2014 #28
An excerpt from the Executive Summary: GliderGuider Mar 2014 #29
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