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Dennis Meadows: Collapse inevitable 2015-2020
"In 1972 there were two possible options provided for going forward overshoot or sustainable development. Despite myriad conferences and commissions on sustainable development since then, the world opted for overshoot. The two-leggeds hairless apes did what they always have done. They dominated and subdued Earth. Faced with unequivocable evidence of an approaching existential threat, they equivocated and then attempted to muddle through.
Global civilization will only be the first of many casualties of the climate the Mother Nature now has coming our way at a rate of change exceeding any comparable shift in the past 3 million years, save perhaps the meteors or supervolcanoes that scattered our ancestors into barely enough breeding pairs to be able to revive. This change will be longer lived and more profound than many of those phenomena. We have fundamentally altered the nitrogen, carbon and potassium cycles of the planet. It may never go back to an ecosystem in which bipedal mammals with bicameral brains were possible. Or, not for millions of years.
Meadows holds that collapse is now all but inevitable, but that its actual form will be too complex for any model to predict. Collapse will not be driven by a single, identifiable cause simultaneously acting in all countries, he observes. It will come through a self-reinforcing complex of issuesincluding climate change, resource constraints and socioeconomic inequality. When economies slow down, Meadows explains, fewer products are created relative to demand, and when the rich cant get more by producing real wealth they start to use their power to take from lower segments. As scarcities mount and inequality increases, revolutions and socioeconomic movements like the Arab Spring or Occupy Wall Street will become more widespreadas will their repression.
"In 1972 there were two possible options provided for going forward overshoot or sustainable development. Despite myriad conferences and commissions on sustainable development since then, the world opted for overshoot. The two-leggeds hairless apes did what they always have done. They dominated and subdued Earth. Faced with unequivocable evidence of an approaching existential threat, they equivocated and then attempted to muddle through.
Global civilization will only be the first of many casualties of the climate the Mother Nature now has coming our way at a rate of change exceeding any comparable shift in the past 3 million years, save perhaps the meteors or supervolcanoes that scattered our ancestors into barely enough breeding pairs to be able to revive. This change will be longer lived and more profound than many of those phenomena. We have fundamentally altered the nitrogen, carbon and potassium cycles of the planet. It may never go back to an ecosystem in which bipedal mammals with bicameral brains were possible. Or, not for millions of years.
Meadows holds that collapse is now all but inevitable, but that its actual form will be too complex for any model to predict. Collapse will not be driven by a single, identifiable cause simultaneously acting in all countries, he observes. It will come through a self-reinforcing complex of issuesincluding climate change, resource constraints and socioeconomic inequality. When economies slow down, Meadows explains, fewer products are created relative to demand, and when the rich cant get more by producing real wealth they start to use their power to take from lower segments. As scarcities mount and inequality increases, revolutions and socioeconomic movements like the Arab Spring or Occupy Wall Street will become more widespreadas will their repression.
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I recently turned 70. It appears to me collapse is already happening, just slowly,
enough
Jun 2014
#6
There's nothing like an LtG thread to draw the cornucopians out of the woodwork, eh?
GliderGuider
Jun 2014
#8
1914 to 1960 was a lot worse for humanity, by many many orders of magnitude.
Benton D Struckcheon
Jun 2014
#10
The problem with complex systems is that up until they fail things look fairly normal.
GliderGuider
Jun 2014
#19
Well, yeah. Now, if you get your own version of Boko Haram.... n/t
Benton D Struckcheon
Jun 2014
#33
An interesting "short paper", that basically says "shit happens" regardless system safety measures.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2014
#22