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FBaggins

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22. Lol... nice try. Let's play a game.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jun 2014

Let's see who can come up with the most reasons why that post is entirely nonsensical. I'll go first.

1) If thyroid abnormalities were caused by Hiroshima & Nagasaki and the rate is the same around Fukushima... then Fukushima isn't the cause.

2) Ionizing radiation has been known to damage DNA, but what hasn't been shown (unless your sources are Godzilla movies) is that impacted DNA being passed down from one generation to the next (let alone persisting).

3) Even if damaged DNA could replicate in the next generation, how would an entire population get the same genetic abnormality only 2-3 generations later? Again... unless comic books are your source, this simply doesn't happen. The damage to each DNA strand would be different.

4) "Japan" didn't suffer massive irradiation any of those three times... distinct parts of Japan did (IOW... it is in no sense the "same population". One of the three sampling locations was in Nagasaki, but the other two were hundreds of miles away... yet have the same "Abnormality" rates. Wouldn't you expect the descendants of Nagasaki to have a greater impact from this imagined effect of yours than those in Aomori (1300 km away)?

5) There aren't parts of the world that have shown much lower rates of these supposed "abnormalities". You can't go and come up with a theory as to why the Japanese have a higher rate... until you first show that they do.

6) Speaking of which... if they really did have a far higher rate of "pre-cancerous" "abnormalities" due to "Japan" suffering "massive irradiation", then you would expect a higher rate of thyroid cancer (and deaths from same) compared to the rest of the world. Yet this isn't the case.

Ok... your turn.

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Fukushima's Children are Dying [View all] unhappycamper Jun 2014 OP
Before the nay-sayers post, I want to emphasize Demeter Jun 2014 #1
He's no journalist when it comes to anything nuclear FBaggins Jun 2014 #3
So are you saying this is made up? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6
Yes... he made it up entirely FBaggins Jun 2014 #7
Here's some actual reporting for comparison FBaggins Jun 2014 #9
That's really interesting. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #11
Nobody can say for certain... FBaggins Jun 2014 #15
Half of almost any group having what I would think of as medical Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #17
True... but you have to ask yourself... FBaggins Jun 2014 #18
Especially when this is the SECOND time Japan has suffered massive irradiation, you mean? Demeter Jun 2014 #20
Lol... nice try. Let's play a game. FBaggins Jun 2014 #22
From the website: Children of the Atomic Bomb Demeter Jun 2014 #23
So...um... that's 6-0 in my favor, eh? FBaggins Jun 2014 #24
BUT--the Fukushima disaster is the gift that keeps on giving Demeter Jun 2014 #25
Sorry... you don't get to play games with reality. FBaggins Jun 2014 #27
Have a nice, big dose of reality, with your radiation, Baggins Demeter Jun 2014 #28
Lol... was that an oddly-worded apology? Or did you not even read what you posted? FBaggins Jun 2014 #29
You can't prove a negative Demeter Jun 2014 #30
Sorry... you've confused your logical fallacies. FBaggins Jun 2014 #31
You are a nuclear apologist, and there's far too much to apologize for Demeter Jun 2014 #32
How predictable FBaggins Jun 2014 #37
For three years Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #2
In order for the talking point to go away... FBaggins Jun 2014 #4
'Dose' also has a time component. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #5
That's incorrect FBaggins Jun 2014 #8
You've got it exactly backwards. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #10
Nope. FBaggins Jun 2014 #12
Ah, ok Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #14
No problem at all FBaggins Jun 2014 #16
Actually looking at what you said, I think we Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #13
I don't see any info that a child has actually died from Fukishima. OnlinePoker Jun 2014 #19
Cancer takes a while. Check back in ten years. Demeter Jun 2014 #21
Nothing to see here...move along. deathrind Jun 2014 #26
This is horrible that so many children are dying. We must get rid of nuclear power plants for good. WilliamTuckness Jun 2014 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #34
Fukushima: Another Disaster The Nuclear/Radiation Cartel Lies About Wo49 Jun 2014 #35
You're going to use your very first post to shill for the lunatic fringe? FBaggins Jun 2014 #36
Welcome to D.U., Wo49. We are clearly deeply disrespected by the corporate "news" media. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #38
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