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BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
24. Why can't we talk about it?
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jun 2014

I have experienced the absolute fury when bringing up overpopulation. Like religion, it's one of those deep-seated superstitions that people ought to reproduce as they like unimpeded. Back when half of your children died from infectious disease and you needed to breed your own farmhands, large families might have been necessary but they aren't now. The same kind of prosaic thinking goes into the anti-choice campaign, that the world needs every human it can get or the fundagelical drive to have as many children as possible in some kind of deluded idea that they can outbreed the heathens and brown people.

In many countries, birth control is not available at all, and men do not wish to use it. In India, the government tried a campaign to reduce their out of control population by trading something useful to each man willing to get a vasectomy: a bucket. There were some takers but not many. As birth control through the male is far far easier than through females, it only makes sense to deal with the issue through that route. But our old superstitions rear their heads again. Men are not considered virile if they can't impregnate lots of females. Caveman thinking.

We have not progressed very far in our beliefs so now we are in a perilous situation. Overpopulation of humans mean animals and ecosystems are pushed out or stripped. We need to start some new way of thinking where people are not isolated and full of harmful superstitions. Some kind of community building and what it means to be a good member of that community would help. And #1 should be the development of 100% effective, easy-to-use birth control. We have all these technological breakthroughs and yet can't manage that? Bollocks. That would be a true gift to the world but there has to be the will to make it and to accept it.

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Indeed, reminds me of the messages of the Georgia Guidestones: NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #1
I'd never heard of that. Very interesting. CrispyQ Jun 2014 #3
Thanks--I hadn't known about the Guidestones. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #5
Responsible Population Parameters colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #6
A quiver of children Fairgo Jun 2014 #28
Population growth is an chervilant Jun 2014 #2
It will balance out Fearless Jun 2014 #4
"Nature" doesn't really care about the biosphere either. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #7
Within the species it does care about those things Fearless Jun 2014 #17
If we've added 4 billion in the last 40 years and it's going to take us 86 years tularetom Jun 2014 #8
The problem is solving itself Fearless Jun 2014 #18
The root cause of our biggest problems. earthside Jun 2014 #9
yep. Well said......and KnR to this whole thread BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #21
Republicans have a solution. Free market, law of the jungle, everyone for themselves! Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #10
People aren't hungry or thirsty because hughee99 Jun 2014 #11
Money issue too. It's very complicated. But let's distribute condoms along with all that food. Auggie Jun 2014 #12
I think of what you describe as somewhat different - the first of two speed bumps, if you will hatrack Jun 2014 #13
The OP suggested we've already gone beyond our resources because so many hughee99 Jun 2014 #14
Carrying capacity is based on sustainability pscot Jun 2014 #20
Fossil feuls? hughee99 Jun 2014 #22
At present, other sources of energy pscot Jun 2014 #25
I think we're defining things differently hughee99 Jun 2014 #27
Other energy sources are less dense, non-portable, and don't provide raw materials. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Adam051188 Jun 2014 #16
Bingo! nolabels Jun 2014 #15
This, as more and more animals keep taking the brunt of feeding so many more billions of people gtar100 Jun 2014 #19
0ut of control population growth kardonb Jun 2014 #23
Why can't we talk about it? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #24
But what's the human to non-human ratio history? Humans are replacing other species. valerief Jun 2014 #26
The old Petri dish is filling up ... Nihil Jun 2014 #30
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