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tclambert

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27. Corporations were formed to avoid legal liability. The laws clearly protect them too much.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jul 2014

To be clear, the corporation protects the actual human persons responsible for harmful actions and decisions. The corporation faces fines and legal damages, but the CEO walks away unharmed.

In general, the question of failing businesses worries me. Many toxic waste sites were orphaned by businesses that went out of business. During their death spiral, they often try at some point to cut costs by dispensing with safety procedures, such as "temporarily" storing waste in steel drums on the back lot. They know it's not safe in the long term, but the plan is to take proper care of it AFTER the company's financial problems turn around. But if the business continues to flounder, conditions deteriorate, and they may take measures such as raiding the company's pension money. When upper management realizes they cannot save the company, they turn to saving themselves with golden parachutes, and big bonuses (for handling the stress of dealing with failure). When the company finally dies, the back lot is full of rusting barrels leaking toxic waste, the employees learn their pension money was stolen, and the C-level executives walk away rich.

Perhaps we need to re-visit the entire concept of the corporation. How did the world function before corporations existed? Did the people who ran businesses actually have to take responsibility and accountability for their actions? Maybe we should go back to that.

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Federal agencies need to be able to levy far bigger fines. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #1
the fine should be multiples of the cost to maintain it in the first place elehhhhna Jul 2014 #2
The water is still poisoned Warpy Jul 2014 #3
And since they've already declared bankruptcy (how convenient)... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #6
What a sad joke abelenkpe Jul 2014 #4
But ... but ... but ... government regulations are killing American businesses! earthside Jul 2014 #5
Regulations? Bah! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #7
Federal fines for egregious Kelvin Mace Jul 2014 #8
I think that's an excellent suggestion. theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #9
Now, now. Orrex Jul 2014 #10
I'd heard about that. theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #11
He might have to wash the Governor's windows. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #20
Ridiculous corruption. nt stillwaiting Jul 2014 #12
Fines are not adequate. RoccoR5955 Jul 2014 #13
This is how the game is played theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #15
That's 4 cents per poisoning. KurtNYC Jul 2014 #14
And if the owners had a different color of skin, they'd be in Gitmo. sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #16
Prison at least. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #19
Corporate death penalty please. JEB Jul 2014 #17
Yes, that is one hefty fine. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #18
For regulations to work, violations must bring serious consequences. Fines must be hefty. tclambert Jul 2014 #21
But what happens when the company just avoids the fines by declaring bankruptcy? theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #24
Corporations were formed to avoid legal liability. The laws clearly protect them too much. tclambert Jul 2014 #27
All excellent points! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #28
May I suggest a slight correction? mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2014 #22
To be honest, OSHA was all part of this comedy of (tragic) errors theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #25
OMG, a classic case of government over-reach! Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #23
Not bad. Treant Jul 2014 #26
OSHA cannot fine for 300K people, only workplace violations endangering workers. freshwest Jul 2014 #29
Thanks for taking the time to compose such a cogent and informative post theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #33
Failure in terms of ensuring that the US public is able to remain healthy and safe is truedelphi Jul 2014 #34
This is great information theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #35
Appalachia group and community rights. Got it. truedelphi Jul 2014 #36
Ok that's for the workplace hootinholler Jul 2014 #30
If California can dissolve companies, so can other states. ancianita Jul 2014 #31
Freedumb™ GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #32
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