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hatrack

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20. Another interesting point about the subset of CO2 within the larger GHG growth picture:
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:22 AM
Dec 2011

If you go to Mauna Loa's website, and check annual mean changes in CO2, you'll find this:



http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ - (third graph down the page).

A couple of things jumped out at me - first of all, the anomalous years - 1964, 1992 and 1999, when we monitored mean annual CO2 increases of .28, .48 and .93 ppm/yr. The first came during the booming mid-1960s, the second at the end of the Gulf War Recession and the last just when globalization was really getting going. Is there a common thread to explain these relatively low-output years? Recession would seem to explain 1992, but not the others.

Second, the mean annual increase during the 1990s was lower than the decade that preceded it and the decade that followed - not by much, but it was a lower-CO2 decade. Why? Was it the payoff of moves to energy efficiency in technology and industry during the 1980s? The shutdown of massively polluting industries in the East Bloc post 1989? India and China not really moving yet? I suspect all of the above, but absent data won't speculate further.

But the main point is simply this - there's not a single year, going back to the end of the 1950s, in which we do not see a mean annual increase in CO2 content. IOW, there's never been a net negative year in atmospheric carbon dioxide, and though there have been years of slow growth, there's never been even a single flat year. That's what concerns me, especially now, given the scale of coal burning that's about to really get going, and a point that tends to get lost in our review of the inevitable fluctuations in total anthropogenic GHG output year to year.

CO2 - the core GHG - hasn't had a single net negative year in all the time we've been tracking it directly, and that's more than half a century.

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And a different perspective... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #1
By the time they get around to discussing "negotiating legally binding restrictions"... joshcryer Dec 2011 #2
We're out of time - YOY increases in atmospheric GHG content in 2010 were 5.95% hatrack Dec 2011 #3
However, that 5.95% increase in emissions was after a decrease from 2008 to 2009 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #4
The west has been relatively flat for decades, the increases are coming from India, China and the... joshcryer Dec 2011 #10
The annual increase had been slowing from 2003 to 2007 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #15
2010 is the largest, though, and that's at the end of a deep recession. joshcryer Dec 2011 #17
Here, I plotted it with the 2008-2010 data: joshcryer Dec 2011 #18
Another interesting point about the subset of CO2 within the larger GHG growth picture: hatrack Dec 2011 #20
Are we out of time? Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #5
Methane is 27 times more potent greenhouse gas than is CO2 txlibdem Dec 2011 #6
It does have a much shorter atmospheric life, but it's enough to cause glacial feedbacks... joshcryer Dec 2011 #8
Point of interest: the 20-odd time worse figure is averaged over a century. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #11
Fair point. joshcryer Dec 2011 #12
Just let me say thank you for giving me nightmares for the next month NickB79 Dec 2011 #13
Average lifetime is something like 8 years Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #16
Oops. Nihil Dec 2011 #19
Unfortunatley it'd cost $100 trillion, or roughly 10%-15% global GDP every year for a decade. joshcryer Dec 2011 #9
Have to agree. Ice free arctic in 5 years tops. Methane releases beyond expectations. joshcryer Dec 2011 #7
A post from 2006 by hatrack: joshcryer Dec 2011 #14
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