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Benton D Struckcheon

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10. One more time,
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:10 PM
Aug 2014

it's very simple: the US is a net food exporter. NONE of that industry has gone over to China. It's also very energy intensive. We get two percent of our stuff from China, once you net it all out. That leaves 98% still here, and beyond that, a lot of that 2% is stuff that we used to get from Mexico, Taiwan, and so on. So that one sentence where he says that the US drop in energy consumption is due to our energy intensive industry moving to China is wrong. If that's wrong, so is the rest of his argument, since US energy use peaked in 2007, but the US economy is now larger than it was that year. He claims, as he obviously knows this, that the US can't be used as a counterexample to his supposed law. I'm saying it can.
That's all.

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Energetic Limits to Economic Growth [View all] GliderGuider Aug 2014 OP
Kick.... daleanime Aug 2014 #1
He's wrong. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2014 #2
What about the crux of Garrett's argument? GliderGuider Aug 2014 #3
The crux of his and your argument is fatalism in re CO2. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2014 #8
It's a question of system boundaries. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #11
Funny, you sound very similar to another poster that used to be on EE a lot NickB79 Aug 2014 #4
Jevons is a favourite whipping-boy GliderGuider Aug 2014 #6
"We are self-sufficient in food." NickB79 Aug 2014 #5
If you'd bother to actually read what I wrote, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2014 #7
Chinese exports to the USA GliderGuider Aug 2014 #9
One more time, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2014 #10
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