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caraher

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8. The infrastructure growth requirements are daunting for hydrogen
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

In the US, today, how many public hydrogen fueling stations are there? Twelve. Ten in California.

And a buildout of the required infrastructure is far more costly for hydrogen. Romm says

hydrogen fueling stations cost a LOT more than electric charging station, millions of dollars versus 1 to 5 percent of that cost for EV charging. In part that’s because of the related problem of a lack of FCVs on the road (versus some 234,000 plug-in vehicles in the U.S. alone). A third related reason is that more governments and companies have an incentive to build EV stations than hydrogen stations


Romm sums up the problem for hydrogen today this way:

The biggest problem hydrogen fuel cell vehicles face is that they deliver no obvious major consumer (or societal/environmental) benefit compared to the competition, but have a bunch of obvious consumer defects. These defects include high first cost, high fueling cost (compared to both gasoline and electricity), lack of fueling stations and lack of a nationwide fuel-delivery infrastructure — especially for renewable hydrogen.

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Chevy Spark Is Unobtainable In Most Of The US cantbeserious Sep 2014 #1
As are many of the vehicles on that list caraher Sep 2014 #2
Message deleted by DU the Administrators nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #3
What is the lifetime of any car? caraher Sep 2014 #6
I felt compelled to check the sources for some of those charts. "Well to Wheel" efficiency my ass. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #16
Automobile culture needs to die. hunter Sep 2014 #4
I agree caraher Sep 2014 #5
'Jet Setters' need to be eliminated first. quadrature Sep 2014 #9
If we don't solve this problem, Mother Nature will in her billions of years, very old ways. hunter Sep 2014 #10
A self-driving car to pick you up? GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #11
I'm not thinking something like a New York Taxi driven by a robot... hunter Sep 2014 #12
FCEVs are an attempt to maintain a fueling infrastructure stranglehold. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #7
Honda proves you wrong nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #13
How much for a home filling system? What's the efficiency loss versus EVs? NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #14
Bernie Sanders Julian_Cox May 2015 #17
Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2015 #18
Excellent post! notemason May 2015 #19
I'm not Elon Musk Julian_Cox May 2015 #21
But we can make Hydrogen from the Bullshit! mackdaddy May 2015 #20
The infrastructure growth requirements are daunting for hydrogen caraher Sep 2014 #8
I agree. There's a place in the energy world for Hydrogen, but it's not in passenger vehicles. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #15
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