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GliderGuider

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21. What major developed nations are neither oligarchic nor authoritarian?

Reply to cprise (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:45 AM

Oct 2014

Are there any putative democracies where the public discourse hasn't been captured by commercial/financial interests? Is this the same as asking whether there are any democracies that don't subscribe to capitalism?

The rubric of capitalism seems to give a most convenient cover for the stealthy takeover of public process by oligarchic interests.

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Is democracy compatible with de-growth? [View all] GliderGuider Oct 2014 OP

Alas. Totally agree with your post Bigmack Oct 2014 #1

The most important aspect of "de-growth" is in reducing the total population. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #2

Very thought-inducing points. 2naSalit Oct 2014 #3

Universal education of women has led to population declines on point Oct 2014 #4

Dictatorships did address (if not reverse) excessive growth in both Edo Japan and China GliderGuider Oct 2014 #5

would dictatorships really reduce growth? DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #6

Not necessarily. GliderGuider Oct 2014 #7

We have to break our stereotype that a growing economy is good... ffr Oct 2014 #8

Growth is easy. Everyone gets more. Hooray! The2ndWheel Oct 2014 #10

Even an authoritarian government needs to grow to be effective The2ndWheel Oct 2014 #9

That's one of the things that derailed China's OCP. GliderGuider Oct 2014 #11

Communites that successfully implement "degrowth" do not show up in the history books. hunter Oct 2014 #12

I agree that political labels have little relevance. GliderGuider Oct 2014 #13

Interesting question, GliderGuider. I suspect a sufficient number of citizens are right now Hortensis Oct 2014 #14

There were some improvements, in our own power plants for example... hunter Oct 2014 #18

You make a good argument for population control madokie Oct 2014 #15

The arguments are sound, but arguments don't carry the day on this issue. GliderGuider Oct 2014 #16

Like seeking volunteers for the Soylent factory One_Life_To_Give Oct 2014 #17

The only experience we have of actual degrowth pscot Oct 2014 #19

Wealthy elites are less concerned about AGW than the public cprise Oct 2014 #20

What major developed nations are neither oligarchic nor authoritarian? GliderGuider Oct 2014 #21