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TheWraith

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36. File that under "No shit."

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 07:54 PM

Feb 2012

Anyone who knows fuck-all about rechargeable batteries can tell you that draining them to zero and leaving them there is the fastest way to damage a Lithium Ion battery. Is Tesla supposed to accept responsibility for the fact that some people decided their cars ran on magic? Or for the fact that Tesla batteries don't ignore the same basic laws of physics that every other battery has to work with? It's no healthier for a rechargeable battery to be left on zero power than it is to run a car with no oil in it. This isn't rocket science, and it's not a "design flaw."

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Tesla Motors� Devastating Design Problem [View all] n2doc Feb 2012 OP

This seems... not good... nt Xipe Totec Feb 2012 #1

I call bullshit. TheWraith Feb 2012 #2

Good Grief!!! intaglio Feb 2012 #5

5 is more than 'a couple' n2doc Feb 2012 #6

They don't have five examples. Actually, they only have one identified. TheWraith Feb 2012 #9

Please explain how a brand new car" has no oil in it The Croquist Feb 2012 #16

If I decide to run a brand new car without ever changing the oil, or adding more... TheWraith Feb 2012 #33

False analogy; this is more like driving the car without gasing up. Xipe Totec Feb 2012 #41

Exactly - I guess we blame driving without oil on a "devastating design problem". wtmusic Feb 2012 #17

So you were the one who wrote that idiotic comment on their blog? n2doc Feb 2012 #23

I didn't write any comments on the guy's blog. TheWraith Feb 2012 #35

That doesn't work either. Try this: kristopher Feb 2012 #43

Even if they have "five examples", that doesn't mean "five different owners" Nihil Feb 2012 #46

Just a couple of $40,000 uninsurable losses.... Xipe Totec Feb 2012 #40

Oh my... that will totally destroy any future, if they dont quickly address it. hlthe2b Feb 2012 #3

To forestall the usual panic-rumor-gossip, not an issue on most EVs dmallind Feb 2012 #4

A well designed EV should do just that n/t n2doc Feb 2012 #7

If Tesla doesn't incorporate such a device on their vehicles, a recall is in order wtmusic Feb 2012 #14

I call BS tech3149 Feb 2012 #8

I love how quickly people call any information they don�t like BS OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #10

Pretty easy to seize a car by running without oil too dmallind Feb 2012 #11

Will you ruin that car if you don�t use if for a month? OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #13

Nissan is lying jeff47 Feb 2012 #48

I love how people take any reference to a story as confirmation. TheWraith Feb 2012 #12

Read what Tesla wrote OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #15

Here's something else they wrote...it's called an "Owner's Manual". wtmusic Feb 2012 #18

This is a far cry from saying the the problem doesn�t exist. OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #21

Well I guess an EV is different than an internal-combustion car, isn't it? wtmusic Feb 2012 #22

Sorry, that doesn�t cut it OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #26

Then I would suggest you don't buy one. wtmusic Feb 2012 #28

Seriously? OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #30

The Roadster also predated the Leaf by three years wtmusic Feb 2012 #32

Nissan uses weasel words. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #34

File that under "No shit." TheWraith Feb 2012 #36

Why don't you stop spreading FUD about EVs? kristopher Feb 2012 #19

I�m not spreading anything OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #20

Yes you are. kristopher Feb 2012 #24

This isn�t my thread OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #27

No, you joined the effort to spread FUD kristopher Feb 2012 #29

Thank you for (once again) telling me what my intentions are OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #31

Since you appear to want to drag me into this sub-thread... TheWraith Feb 2012 #38

I didn�t really intend to �drag� you anywhere OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #47

Tesla could warranty this issue away if they wanted. tinrobot Feb 2012 #25

So Tesla should pony up $40,000 a pop because of the user's negligence? TheWraith Feb 2012 #37

Absolutely yes they should. bananas Feb 2012 #44

Maybe set it up so a self-powered car alarm fired off when the charge got too low... hunter Feb 2012 #39

It already does the first bit ... Nihil Feb 2012 #45

Considering that the battery management and motor control systems have a long history, IDemo Feb 2012 #42

Seems to me that if you don't want a $100,000 brick... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #49

Such are the problems with emerging technologies. NYC_SKP Feb 2012 #50