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In reply to the discussion: Tesla Motors’ Devastating Design Problem [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)47. I didn’t really intend to “drag” you anywhere
I was simply showing one of the multiple posts I was responding to.
I dont think that letting a car sit idle once is abusing it.
http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design
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[font size=5]Its A Brick Tesla Motors Devastating Design Problem[/font]
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A Tesla Roadster that is simply parked without being plugged in will eventually become a brick. The parasitic load from the cars always-on subsystems continually drains the battery and if the batterys charge is ever totally depleted, it is essentially destroyed. Complete discharge can happen even when the car is plugged in if it isnt receiving sufficient current to charge, which can be caused by something as simple as using an extension cord. After battery death, the car is completely inoperable. At least in the case of the Tesla Roadster, its not even possible to enable tow mode, meaning the wheels will not turn and the vehicle cannot be pushed nor transported to a repair facility by traditional means.
The amount of time it takes an unplugged Tesla to die varies. Teslas Roadster Owners Manual {Full Zipped PDF} states that the battery should take approximately 11 weeks of inactivity to completely discharge {Page 5-2, Column 3: PDF}. However, that is from a full 100% charge. If the car has been driven first, say to be parked at an airport for a long trip, that time can be substantially reduced. If the car is driven to nearly its maximum range and then left unplugged, it could potentially brick in about one week.[font size=1]1[/font] Many other scenarios are possible: for example, the car becomes unplugged by accident, or is unwittingly plugged into an extension cord that is defective or too long.
When a Tesla battery does reach total discharge, it cannot be recovered and must be entirely replaced. Unlike a normal car battery, the best-case replacement cost of the Tesla battery is currently at least $32,000, not including labor and taxes that can add thousands more to the cost.
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[font size=5]Its A Brick Tesla Motors Devastating Design Problem[/font]
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A Tesla Roadster that is simply parked without being plugged in will eventually become a brick. The parasitic load from the cars always-on subsystems continually drains the battery and if the batterys charge is ever totally depleted, it is essentially destroyed. Complete discharge can happen even when the car is plugged in if it isnt receiving sufficient current to charge, which can be caused by something as simple as using an extension cord. After battery death, the car is completely inoperable. At least in the case of the Tesla Roadster, its not even possible to enable tow mode, meaning the wheels will not turn and the vehicle cannot be pushed nor transported to a repair facility by traditional means.
The amount of time it takes an unplugged Tesla to die varies. Teslas Roadster Owners Manual {Full Zipped PDF} states that the battery should take approximately 11 weeks of inactivity to completely discharge {Page 5-2, Column 3: PDF}. However, that is from a full 100% charge. If the car has been driven first, say to be parked at an airport for a long trip, that time can be substantially reduced. If the car is driven to nearly its maximum range and then left unplugged, it could potentially brick in about one week.[font size=1]1[/font] Many other scenarios are possible: for example, the car becomes unplugged by accident, or is unwittingly plugged into an extension cord that is defective or too long.
When a Tesla battery does reach total discharge, it cannot be recovered and must be entirely replaced. Unlike a normal car battery, the best-case replacement cost of the Tesla battery is currently at least $32,000, not including labor and taxes that can add thousands more to the cost.
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This (to my mind) is a serious design flaw.
Has it happened to 5 people?
Of the approximately 2,200 Roadsters sold to date, a regional service manager for Tesla stated he was personally aware of at least five cases of Tesla Roadsters being bricked due to battery depletion. It is unknown if there are additional cases in other regions or countries.
Assuming this statement is not a complete fabrication, it has happened to at least 5 people (probably more.)
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If I decide to run a brand new car without ever changing the oil, or adding more...
TheWraith
Feb 2012
#33
Exactly - I guess we blame driving without oil on a "devastating design problem".
wtmusic
Feb 2012
#17
If Tesla doesn't incorporate such a device on their vehicles, a recall is in order
wtmusic
Feb 2012
#14
Maybe set it up so a self-powered car alarm fired off when the charge got too low...
hunter
Feb 2012
#39