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2. Oh goodie. That means I can continue my carless fossil fuel based lifestyle

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:55 PM

Nov 2014

And everybody around me can too.

I don't see this data lasting. We've had something like four days of below normal temperature this year. I'm talking about morning low temps compared to historic averages. This week being one that has one day a few degrees below normal for the morning low. All the others this year have been 7 - 15 degrees above historic averages, with some 25+ degrees above normal.

The heat just isn't getting out of the atmosphere at night like it once could. While my observations are only local in origin, from what I have gathered, the phenomenon does seem to run the tables for higher elevation cities.

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NASA: Alaska Shows No Signs of Rising Arctic Methane [View all] OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 OP

I guess it's early yet. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1

Oh goodie. That means I can continue my carless fossil fuel based lifestyle ffr Nov 2014 #2

No, it doesn�t OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #3

One facet wouldn't convince me ffr Nov 2014 #4

This finding may mean the difference between �hopeless� and �serious� OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #5

I'd love to believe that, but what meaningful action is being taken ffr Nov 2014 #6

How about on a national scale? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #7

Is that because CO2 is so scrupulous at respecting national borders? GliderGuider Nov 2014 #8

The question �what meaningful action is being taken on a mass scale� was asked. OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #9

And you point to G20 promises? GliderGuider Nov 2014 #10

Go back and look at the graphs. OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #11

It looks to me like the European graph mostly shows them running into economic trouble. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #12

No doubt economics played a role OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #13

No doubt wind and solar are making some inroads in Europe. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #14

Perhaps you missed the title of the first graph OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #15

No, I didn't miss it. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #16

After a little more digging, I'm convinced that graph is pure bullshit. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #17

This may be helpful to you OKIsItJustMe Nov 2014 #18

So they just lopped off over 1/3 of all primary energy use with the stroke of a pen. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #19