Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Yavapai

(825 posts)
7. They say that pumped hydro is one of the best.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 08:39 PM
Feb 2012

The issue is that it requires elevation and that can be a problem in places like Kansas. There is a lack of suitable sites.

They mention a project in southern California, where they will use an abandoned open pit iron mine (Eagle Mountain) and use it for that purpose. The Republicans in California wanted to use the mine as a huge landfill that would have very probably leaked into the aquifer was frightening.
The article shows the cons to molten sodium is that it is expensive, and hard to hold energy for long periods, but it can be sited anywhere and is efficient, cost effective and highly reliable.

Renewable energy and its storage technologies hopefully will become much higher on our list of national priorities, replacing "drill baby drill and contraceptive usage..

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

wonderful, let's make this stuff in the USA, not imported from.... nt msongs Feb 2012 #1
One of the problems with solar is storage for later use. Yavapai Feb 2012 #2
Arizona is building a 500Mw solar molten sodium tower FogerRox Feb 2012 #3
They say that pumped hydro is one of the best. Yavapai Feb 2012 #7
Storage isn't that critical for the grid. kristopher Feb 2012 #10
I have 2 lines of thought FogerRox Feb 2012 #19
Thank you kristopher and FogerRox, Yavapai Feb 2012 #22
Molten sodium is intended for overnight FogerRox Feb 2012 #18
And molten sodium is not intended for use with PV OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #20
Right, has nothing to do with PV FogerRox Feb 2012 #21
When Denmark sells its wind power " for pennies", what fuel doesn't get used? nt kristopher Feb 2012 #5
Probably the same stuff that *does* get used when they buy back at much higher prices. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #6
That doesn't necessarily follow. kristopher Feb 2012 #8
So, why don't you go find out and tell us? nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #9
Why don't you? kristopher Feb 2012 #11
I didn't ask the question Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #12
And the person I asked the question of has yet to respond. kristopher Feb 2012 #13
Words that don't apply to you, it seems. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #14
Kris has been looking a little disheveled lately XemaSab Feb 2012 #15
Damnit, that reminds me, I gotta iron my shirt and pants for jury duty. joshcryer Feb 2012 #16
I'll swing by and give a you steam press and matching energy policy. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #17
Chinese Tier-2 Modules Offered Below $1/W (as low as $0.80/W in Jan) kristopher Feb 2012 #4
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Environment & Energy»Making Solar Power Compet...»Reply #7