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FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
19. I have 2 lines of thought
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 04:28 PM
Feb 2012
Storage can be a canard.
We dont need storage systems to install solar and wind generation on a significant scale. Like the Atlantic WInd Connection, a 350 mile long HVDC offshore trunkline from NJ to Virginia that can support 1750 4Mw turbines. We can persue the goals of many white papers like the DOE 20% from wind in 20 yrs.

Storage can make renewables deliver 24/7
I call it non traditional baseload, if we build out 20% from solar in 20 years (100 gigs) and 20% from wind, and 25 gigs of storage, we now can cliam 25 gigs of non traditional baseload. We have about 23 older BWR fission reactors in the US, and that non traditional baseload can replace the generation capacity represented by the 23 BWR.

Right now storage is cool, but we need to focus on installing new renewable capacity, later on, storage comes in real handy.

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wonderful, let's make this stuff in the USA, not imported from.... nt msongs Feb 2012 #1
One of the problems with solar is storage for later use. Yavapai Feb 2012 #2
Arizona is building a 500Mw solar molten sodium tower FogerRox Feb 2012 #3
They say that pumped hydro is one of the best. Yavapai Feb 2012 #7
Storage isn't that critical for the grid. kristopher Feb 2012 #10
I have 2 lines of thought FogerRox Feb 2012 #19
Thank you kristopher and FogerRox, Yavapai Feb 2012 #22
Molten sodium is intended for overnight FogerRox Feb 2012 #18
And molten sodium is not intended for use with PV OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 #20
Right, has nothing to do with PV FogerRox Feb 2012 #21
When Denmark sells its wind power " for pennies", what fuel doesn't get used? nt kristopher Feb 2012 #5
Probably the same stuff that *does* get used when they buy back at much higher prices. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #6
That doesn't necessarily follow. kristopher Feb 2012 #8
So, why don't you go find out and tell us? nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #9
Why don't you? kristopher Feb 2012 #11
I didn't ask the question Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #12
And the person I asked the question of has yet to respond. kristopher Feb 2012 #13
Words that don't apply to you, it seems. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #14
Kris has been looking a little disheveled lately XemaSab Feb 2012 #15
Damnit, that reminds me, I gotta iron my shirt and pants for jury duty. joshcryer Feb 2012 #16
I'll swing by and give a you steam press and matching energy policy. nt Dead_Parrot Feb 2012 #17
Chinese Tier-2 Modules Offered Below $1/W (as low as $0.80/W in Jan) kristopher Feb 2012 #4
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